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To: mountn man
I would have to say back in the days of Abraham, when the promise was made.

Wow, that's interesting I hadn't thought of that. However, the Body of Christ isn't held to the law.

14 posted on 08/05/2010 5:40:40 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
No, but Abraham was counted as righteous because of his FAITH, the law hadn't started yet.

Next, Paul tells us in Romans chapter 11 that the gentiles were grafted into the root. WE are now PART of the olive tree.

Paul tells us in Romans 15:

25but now, I am going to Jerusalem serving the saints.

26For Macedonia and Achaia have been pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the saints in Jerusalem.

27Yes, they were pleased to do so, and they are indebted to them. For if the Gentiles have shared in their spiritual things, they are indebted to minister to them also in material things.

I think its pretty obvious "the saints" in Jerusalem are Jewish believers. And the Gentiles shared in something the Jews had.

Romans 15:12

12Again Isaiah says,
"THERE SHALL COME THE ROOT OF JESSE,
AND HE WHO ARISES TO RULE OVER THE GENTILES,
IN HIM SHALL THE GENTILES HOPE."

Isaiah 11:1 & 10:

1Then a shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse, And a branch from his roots will bear fruit.

10Then in that day The nations will resort to the root of Jesse, Who will stand as a signal for the peoples; And His resting place will be glorious.

Revelation 22: 16

"I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."

Jesus is the root foretold in Isaiah that the Gentiles would hope. Paul pronouced it in Romans and Jesus confirmed it in Revelation.

Isaiah the prophet foretold it, which means, it was ALWAYS Gods intention to include the Gentiles.

Romans 13:

46Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly and said, "It was necessary that the word of God be spoken to you )first; since you repudiate it and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles. 47"For so the Lord has commanded us, 'I HAVE PLACED YOU AS A LIGHT FOR THE GENTILES, THAT YOU MAY BRING SALVATION TO THE END OF THE EARTH.'"

48When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Isaiah 49 confirms this

6He says, "It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant
To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel;
I will also make You a light of the nations So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth."

From the beginning Gods intention was to include the gentiles. Which means when he made the promise to Abraham he already had the Gentiles in mind. The Gentiles aren't the beginning of the church, we are the inclussion into it. We are the grafted in ones. The adopted ones.

Instead of looking at ourselves as better than the Jews, AND SEPERATE FROM the Jews. Scripture tells us we are now PART OF Gods promise to THE JEWS.

The "Church"

The Bride Of Christ

Started back with Gods promise to Abraham.

34 posted on 08/05/2010 6:57:55 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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