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To: Blue Collar Christian

What about those who wish to believe but were never able to then the despair becomes so horrible that they commit suicide? Do they still go to hell?


45 posted on 08/08/2010 7:53:56 PM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: Soothesayer

Open your mind to the possibility that there might be a good God who has given men free will but “will not strive with flesh forever” meaning, the loving God will become a God of justice and He will judge us all fairly but with power.

Other than that, try to read Dale Carnegie’s book on Lincoln, called Lincoln The Unknown, 1931

It’s a chronicle of Lincoln’s suicidal depression.

It inspired Carnegie to start up his very popular ‘How to win friends and influence people’ series. I somehow took heart in my own times of darkness when I saw a man like Lincoln, broken.


47 posted on 08/08/2010 8:01:07 PM PDT by TwoLegsGood ("...my sin is ever before me" - King David)
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To: Soothesayer
Finally, I'll leave you with something from the Bible about the balance of wisdom with depression.

God basically tells us that “the more wisdom one has, the more sorrow.”

I think in Ecclesiastes.

The reason for this is because when we have wisdom about the world, about human nature, about our own potential for sin and utter selfishness, the more we have a potential for sorrow.

For me, my true consolation is to love the people God puts in my life (because giving love away is the way to feel love) and to remember that no matter how I feel, or how dark it is, that there is a God who has suffered the same things I have, and who gets it all. God does get it, soothesayer. He gets why we do the dumb things we do, every hair on our head is counted. He loves us. He does not want us suffering under anxiety, depression but wants us to be as brave as we can to face life, trusting that He has equipped us and will ‘never try us beyond our strength”.

That's what I believe. It's in the Bible. Ultimately it is what Lincoln came to believe, too.

48 posted on 08/08/2010 8:06:27 PM PDT by TwoLegsGood ("...my sin is ever before me" - King David)
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To: Soothesayer

8^] If God is all powerful, why can’t he make a rock so heavy that He Himself can’t lift it? Even if he wanted to believe he could but became so distressed over the paradox that it sapped all his strength? And what’s up with wildebeest having such big shoulders and such narrow hips? There’s a million of ‘em. Wildebeests, that is...


53 posted on 08/08/2010 10:25:38 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (A "tea bagger"? Say it to my face. ><BCC>)
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