Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Colofornian
Mormons have been guilty of using Joseph Smith alone as a filter for everything they believe...

Just like many Christians use Paul alone as a filter.

Mormonism doesn't derive much of its teachings from the Bible

Neither does Christianity. Mormonism is to Christianity, what Christianity is to Judaism. Two false interpretations of the real thing.

16 posted on 08/18/2010 6:16:58 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: blasater1960
Neither does Christianity. Mormonism is to Christianity, what Christianity is to Judaism. Two false interpretations of the real thing.

Spot on...no Paul, no Christianity, just another failed Jewish Messiah....magritte
17 posted on 08/18/2010 6:28:58 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]

To: blasater1960
Just like many Christians use Paul alone as a filter.

Source?

20 posted on 08/18/2010 7:56:06 PM PDT by svcw (Everyday the enemy tries to offer you an apple, when God has already given us an orchard.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]

To: blasater1960
Just like many Christians use Paul alone as a filter.

Argument from silence. No proof offered. Just conjecture, in which you ignore even what Jesus said that has impacted those Christians (let alone the original disciples like Peter...author of two books of the NT; John, 5 books; Luke, 2 books; James; Matthew; Mark).

Neither does Christianity. Mormonism is to Christianity, what Christianity is to Judaism. Two false interpretations of the real thing.

Well, Yeshua is the real deal.

"It is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." (Lev. 17:11)...so, you imply in other places that Ps. 49 indicates no man can ransom his brother, yet the blood of a lamb is of more import the blood of the designated Lamb of God?

Messianic Judaism simply proclaims "nothing other than what was foretold by the prophets and by Moses: that the Messiah must suffer, and that as the first to rise from the dead, he would announce the dawn to Israel and the Gentiles" (Acts 26:22-23, NEB)

[Notice how in contrast to all the OT passages that reference Judaism to becoming a missionary world-wide religion that would include Gentiles, it has become largely dormant in that vein -- provided you rule out Messianic Judaism, that is]

Aside from Isaiah 53 about the Suffering Messiah, we have Dan. 9:26 where the Jewish Scriptures teach mashiach yicarate" -- "the Messiah shall be cut off". [Phillip Goble, p. 6, Everything You Need to Know to Grow a Messianic Synagogue, William Carey library, 1974]

Acts 1 mentions the risen Jesus appearing to 120 brethren -- orthodox Jews. Were they lying? What about the 500 orthodox Jews claiming to have seen Yeshua at one time (1 Cor. 15:6)?

No wonder 3,000 Jews responded to the apostles' message on the first day out of preaching (Acts 2:41).

As Phillip Goble put it in his book (p. 9): ...the crucial issue between Messianic Judaism and any other sort of Judaism centers on the hope of the resurrection of the dead. The only question is whether there is such a hope and whether that hope has been realized in the historical resurrection of Yeshua Ha Mashiach.

Job 19:25-26: For I know that my Redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand upon the earth at last, and after my skin has been destroyed, then from my flesh I shall see my God."

56Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad." 57"You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!" 58"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" (John 8:56-58)

So who do you say this Jesus was?

28 posted on 08/18/2010 8:54:00 PM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson