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To: maine-iac7

What is your opinion of post 28 and 40 ? I am open to all criticism.


42 posted on 09/05/2010 11:05:45 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill informed post.)
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To: UCANSEE2; All
I would tell them to get the latest documentary of the latest scientific studies - which cover the ‘raditation’ concept. (The more we advance, technically, the more we can correlate with the facts. (We'll never catch up to God's science, but we are making progress. Also, He reveals knowledge to us as we are able to understand it - and in HIS time, not ours.)

I have the DVD of this springs History Channel documentary. I have been studying the Shroud for over 50 years, have corresponded with one of the STURP scientists (http://www.shroudstory.com/topic-sturp.htm) from the 1978 research team, read everything I could find - but as a portrait artist, I have also studied from that aspect.

this documentary not only covers the radiation path but a team of graphic artists use science to construct a 3D bust of Jesus from the imprint on the Shroud.

the results brought even the lead artist to tears - as it does me.

Golly, Jesus looks like Jesus! ;o) (The Iconic paintings from hundreds of years ago show evidence that the artists - at least of the oldest known - the Pantocrator - took his depiction from the face one the Shroud, which used to be far more distinct before the centuries of fading. There are other Icons that are obviously borrowing either from this first on and some from the Shroud itself - some have 3 wisps of hair on the forehead which the artists saw on the Shroud - which are actually blood, but they mistook for hair. The famous Pantocrator from the 6th century is my favorite.

link to Pantocrator: oldest
http://www.factsplusfacts.com/resources/Pictures/Pantocrator02.jpg

link to other Iconic paintings, showing the connection

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-951-s&va=christ+the+pantocrator+icon

Link to art/Shroud connection:

http://www.shroudofturin4journalists.com/described.htm

link to History Channel DVD

http://shop.history.com/detail.php?p=261203&v=history_subject_religion&ecid=PID-200006138&pa=SEM_HistorySubReligion_the%20real%20face%20of%20jesus%20dvd&esvtk_s=bgss

an ABC clip on the documentary - if you get the DVD, you may ,as I do, disagree with ABC's assertion that the face the graphic artists used to create their ‘face’ doesn't look like what we think of as Jesus. I disagree. It think it's remarkably accurate. It brought tears to the eyes of the graphic artist - and to mine. I believe it may yours also. I strongly recommend getting the DVD

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/real-face-jesus-christ/story?id=10235129 http://www.shroud.com/

oh, and I recommend Barrie Swartz's Shroud Web site - he was a member of the 1978 STURP team. His is the most thorough and most knowledgable link on the Shroud.

http://www.shroud.com/

51 posted on 09/05/2010 12:13:36 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (g)
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To: UCANSEE2
Well I am not a scientist.

But I did ponder (like a doggie with tilted head) that post, #40.

If he radiated/resurrected and the light/heat was so intense that it left the double impression then it must be a heat as intense as the sun or more.

Would that leave ashes at that degree of heat?

(don't flame me, just a wild guess with no scholar level of degree here)

54 posted on 09/05/2010 12:20:13 PM PDT by Global2010
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