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To: Zionist Conspirator; ROTB; jjotto; papabrody
I am somewhat suprised Hawkings is stating the law of gravity as a means stating there need not be a G-d. According to M theory even constants may be completely different from one Brane to another and the requirements for life in our universe allow virtually no variation in any given constant or the whole thing wont work.

And I am not entirely sold on the concept that our universe was created by two Branes colliding, that seems rather convienient.

54 posted on 09/06/2010 10:25:44 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: blasater1960; wideawake
And I am not entirely sold on the concept that our universe was created by two Branes colliding, that seems rather convienient.

I have no idea what a "Brane" is, but if the universe was created by two of them colliding then there was no creation ex nihilo (beri'ah yesh me'ayin).

The whole point is that atheists are at heart a-nihilists who cannot admit the concept of absolute nothingness prior to the universe's coming-to-be. They always have to have some kind of "raw material" from which the universe was created. This is essentially no different from the concept of the eternity of the universe or of matter or of physicality.

59 posted on 09/07/2010 8:58:37 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zokhrenu lechayyim Melekh chafetz bachayyim; vekhotvenu beSefer HaChayyim lema`ankha 'Eloqim Chayyim)
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