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To: wideawake
Yeah, because infertile couples are just like a couple of masturbating homosexuals... </sarc>

Legalized abortion did it, not The Pill. The major threat of STDs makes The Pill far more useful in a family-planning situation than for mere recreation.

8 posted on 09/29/2010 8:51:38 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

“...The Pill far more useful in a family-planning situation ....” Concur. It’s a tool to make your life more orderly, not a license to go haywire. There are inherent risks, so you choose to take them or not. P.S. People misuse hammers, too....


11 posted on 09/29/2010 8:56:41 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Gondring; wideawake
Yeah, because infertile couples are just like a couple of masturbating homosexuals...

That's a common straw man, and it wasn't what wideawake was saying at all. Even with infertile couples, sexual intercourse still is potentially procreative, because infertility is sometimes overcome.

13 posted on 09/29/2010 8:59:26 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Gondring
Yeah, because infertile couples are just like a couple of masturbating homosexuals

It is, quite obviously, a matter of intentionality.

The infertile couple does not set out intending to be unable to conceive.

Not so the pilltaker, pride marcher, or adult DVD collector.

15 posted on 09/29/2010 9:04:18 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Gondring
Legalized abortion did it, not The Pill.

The two are connected. More than most people know.

Back in the swingin' '60s, the Pill was in fact marketed as an antidote to abortion. It still is, to some extent. Eliminate unwanted pregnancies before they begin, goes the theory, and you will remove the need for abortion.

No, said the Pope Paul VI in a document named Humanae Vitae published in 1968. The Pill will lead inexorably to the cheapening of the procreational act which in turn will lead to women being viewed as mere sex objects. This will result in a greater demand for abortion, not less.

So who was right?

Well, five years after Humanae Vitae, we got Roe v Wade and it has been with us ever since. Abortion is now proclaimed to be a human right in some quarters and it's not hard to see a time when the denial of abortion will be viewed as a violation of "human rights" and a crime. It's clear that the Pill has not eliminated the demand for abortion one iota and instead the killing goes on unabated.

We will continue to have abortion on demand in this country as long as sexual relations are deemed to be legitimate recreational activity. That in turn is down to the Pill. Roe v Wade will not be overturned until there is a sea-change in personal morality.

20 posted on 09/29/2010 9:17:26 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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