I say there..........steady on, old chap.
Seriously, recriminations and bitterness won't help the Ordinariate. Close the door quietly behind you when you leave and move on.
I'm not Catholic or Anglican but I respectfully disagree with what you said. I think that a very public rebuke to the leftists who have wormed their way into positions of power and then abused that power by "changing" society, is always appropriate. I hope that this "message" is sent loud and clear, over and over again... as large numbers of parishes leave the Anglican church.
A church lives and dies on it's donations, here's hoping that the Anglican lefties lose a LOT of their money!!!!
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I don’t see it as recriminations and bitterness, really. He is speaking the Truth, and they have been bullied and side-stepped. He is drawing a line in the sand, and he is right to do so. They have been talking about it since 1992; the time has come.
Being neither Catholic nor Anglican, I don’t have a dog in this fight. But speaking generally it’s always been my observation that a woman is more likely to be a genuine believer then a man is. In an era of spiritual decline, all hands on deck seems sensible.
The Bishop should be less concerned about woman ministers and more outraged his Church for some time now has pretty much abandoned belief in God and Christ as defining and essential for its (male) clergy. His priorities seem skewed.
A person so obsessed with sh*tting on their former church is just as likely to do the same when things don't go their way in their new home. Most religions will overlook this type of thing because they are confident of who they are and their roots. But try this with Islam and you could wake up dead.
My ancestor was the first Archbishop of Canterbury under the Church of England. He broke the old Catholic rule for a priest and married. The decision to allow the ordination of women would seem to be in the same continuum of recognizing healthy human relationships.
I usually agree with you, but respectfully disagree in this case. It’s a bishop’s job to speak the truth, so that his flock may know it. This could possibly be a wakeup call to others who have stuck it out in the Anglican Church as it departs from the teachings that all Christians, Catholic and Protestant, have followed—for instance, that abortion and homosexual acts are wrong.
When a church hierarchy departs from the truth, then they are only too likely to become like Nazis, interested only in power and ideology and repressing all those who speak up for God and the truth.
I was born into the Anglican Church myself, and converted in college. I am very sorry to see the terrible things that have been happening in that church, pushed by the hierarchy itself. I would hope that somehow they could straighten themselves out. But in the meantime, the individuals in that communion deserve to be told the truth and be given a chance to decide for themselves.
I don’t think “fascist” belongs in an intelligent conversation — unless someone is discussing Italian politics of the first half of 20 c.
It is unusual for a convert to Catholicism to be bitter toward his prior confession. Typically, one converts because he find a fuller faith in Rome, but not a different faith. I haven’t met a convert who would not say about the Catholic catechism: “Wow, that is what I always believed!”.
But the bishop’s situation is different. I think, in his case, and in the case of many orthodox Anglicans, it is a bitterness toward the formal structures of modern Anglicanism, which, it should be evident, betrayed their own flock. I detect the same bitterness in several interviews Markus Grodi had with the Anglican converts. They are just dismayed at the treatment the Church of England gave its conservative wing.