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To: Godzilla

Lurkers, it is important to note that the car salesman is extending his usual pitch. What he WON’T tell you is that the link is to only ONE of NINE different and contradictory accounts of the so-called “first vision” THAT SMITH HIMSELF originated.


Old and tired non-issue addressed a thousand times.

Undecided readers,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There’s an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the “quotation” the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn’t been addressed a hundred times before.

Sometimes they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever “issue” they seem to be “revealing” or “exposing”. I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the “ahah” moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there’s nothing new here. It’s all been addressed many times before.

Here’s a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the “issues” brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here’s more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the “you never address our points” posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here. Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself.


57 posted on 10/26/2010 9:02:00 AM PDT by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender; Godzilla
Figured he couldn't go too far before falling back on his shtick

The 9 visions things get them every time...

58 posted on 10/26/2010 9:09:43 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Paragon Defender
Definitive proof that Mormonism is wrong in the same format as PD posts his "proofs".
59 posted on 10/26/2010 9:11:52 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Paragon Defender
Lurkers, it is important to note that the car salesman is extending his usual pitch. What he WON’T tell you is that the link is to only ONE of NINE different and contradictory accounts of the so-called “first vision” THAT SMITH HIMSELF originated.
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Old and tired non-issue addressed a thousand times.

Lurkers - does the car saleman even address the point? No, just goes back to the same, worn out sales pitch hoping you won't notice. In fact, he doesn't even come close to addressing it - why? Because the car salesman realizes that a true investigator will not stop with just one side's story - particularly if that one side gains to benefit from the sale - but reads the reviews. So the out classed salesman tries to just ignore the truth by brandishing the 'addressed a thousand times' excuse, which is really just demagogy. Over their head, car salesmen believe they don't need to produce any arguments against the original statement, knowing that they can't refute it.

Lurkers, don't accept the sales pitch without checking independent sources - not those who want your 10%.


63 posted on 10/26/2010 9:36:40 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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