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To: kosta50
The Catholic/Orthodox Church teaches that Christ was born supernaturally just as he was conceived supernaturally, and just as Mary's conception did not violate her virignity, neither did Christ's birth.

Big deal. Lots of religions that have been around longer than the Catholic church teach a lot of things they call the truth.

Why does the church make up things about people which can't be Scripturally supported. but rather is directly contradicted by a plain reading of the Bible, and pass them off as truth?

The Bible doesn't teach it and that's all that counts.

2,882 posted on 11/22/2010 10:35:21 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
The Bible doesn't teach it and that's all that counts.

Amen.

Rome elevates Mary to a supernatural position reserved for God alone. One of the terrible results of this idolatry is to emasculate and feminize the church, thus robbing it of its strength and purpose, making it more pliable and vulnerable to assault by superstition and heresy."

Neither the church nor Mary is "our Mother." It is enough to have the Father and the Son.

2,883 posted on 11/22/2010 11:25:31 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom; kosta50
Kosta: "The Catholic/Orthodox Church teaches that Christ was born supernaturally just as he was conceived supernaturally, and just as Mary's conception did not violate her virignity, neither did Christ's birth."

metmom: "Big deal. Lots of religions that have been around longer than the Catholic church teach a lot of things they call the truth.

Why does the church make up things about people which can't be Scripturally supported. but rather is directly contradicted by a plain reading of the Bible, and pass them off as truth?"

Just curious, are you an Arian?

"The Bible doesn't teach it and that's all that counts." That's not what the men who put together the canon of your bible believed. In fact, they measured the acceptability, the "canonicity" of various scriptures against what The Church believed, Holy Tradition and liturgical praxis among other things. They worshiped God in a fashion almost identical to the way Orthodox Christians do to this day. Where does your idea come from?

2,896 posted on 11/22/2010 1:56:47 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: metmom
Big deal. Lots of religions that have been around longer than the Catholic church teach a lot of things they call the truth.

The same can be said of many things about Christianity in general. You celebrate Christmas on Decmeber 25th. That's not biblical. Why do you celebrate a fictitious date and pretend that this is the day when your God was born of a woman? Every religion is man-made and therefore represents a man-made tradition.

Why does the church make up things about people which can't be Scripturally supported

For the same reason the Church made Christmas fall on December 25th. Not everything that was revealed is in the scriptures, and the scriptures clearly say so. That covers all the non-scriptural innovations. So, what seems to be the problem?

but rather is directly contradicted by a plain reading of the Bible, and pass them off as truth? The Bible doesn't teach it and that's all that counts.

Isn't that the same as asking why do you accept the Bible to be divinely inspired as pass it off as a matter of fact? is it because you choose to believe it? Well, some choose to believe that not eveyrhting that was revealed is in the Bible, especially because the Bible says so. Even the "sola scirptura" is a form of a made up truth that's not in the Bible...

2,994 posted on 11/22/2010 10:18:47 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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