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if you think you know better than the Early Christians Catholics.

Why are you posting what Catholics say as proof of anything concerning God's Word? Perhaps you can dig up one, also, that it's deemed honorable to kiss the Koran.

Go back to when Jesus spoke about who His mother is and who His brothers are? And Matthew and Mark who said, Jesus, your mother is outside with your brothers and the other Holy Spirit inspired Scriptures from them concerning the names of Jesus' brothers.

Don't you think Jesus knows better than the men He created; such as the ones you list? Being so desperate to prove the RCC doctrine/tradition right and God's Word wrong is certainly not unique - but it does prove that it will be done according to God's Word as..."Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13

You think the ALL KNOWING GOD might have known that man would try to override His Word with their doctrine/traditions?? If He said it - we know it will happen. And the RCC fulfilled Mark 7:13.

[Cronos]

Firstly, thank you for equating Early Christians as being the same as early CAtholics. That is so true — right from Apostolic times, if you read the Didache (written in 70 AD) you can see that the rituals, practises and beliefs of the Early Christians are continued in the beliefs of The Church

[Cronos]

Firstly, thank you for equating Early Christians as being the same as early CAtholics. That is so true — right from Apostolic times, if you read the Didache (written in 70 AD) you can see that the rituals, practises and beliefs of the Early Christians are continued in the beliefs of The Church

In John 19:25 we read, "Standing by the foot of the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary of Magdala." Cross reference this with Matthew 27:56: "Among them [at the cross] were Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee." We see that at least two of the men mentioned in Matthew 13 were definitely not siblings of Jesus (although they're called adelphoi)they were Jesus' cousins--sons of their mother's sister.

The Bible is simply silent on the exact relationship between Jesus and the other two men, Simon and Jude, mentioned in Matthew 13. This proves two important things. First, it proves that the Greek word for brother is sometimes used to mean something other than sibling, and it proves that Matthew 13:55-56 in no way demonstrates that Mary had other children.

Don't you think that Jesus knows better than the men He created such as Calvin and your pastors and other crew? Being so desperate to prove anti-Christian tradition right and God's Word wrong is certainly not unique - but it does prove that it will be done according to God's Word as..."Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13

Instead of following God's tradition, your group follows 500 year old or less man-made tradition.You think the ALL KNOWING GOD might have known that man would try to override His Word with their doctrine/traditions?? If He said it - we know it will happen. And the members of those who deny orthodoxy fulfill Mark 7:13

[metmom]

if you think you know better than the Early Christians Catholics.

There were others who did not adhere to the developing Catholic doctrines and were considered heretics by the group.

Yeah, the "church fathers" "agreed" to all that, but if you didn't, you weren't a "church father". So Catholics can claim church unity in doctrine because they kicked out anyone who disagreed with them and then offer up as proof that all their "church fathers" agreed in these doctrines.

Convenient, eh?