To: Lera
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Church doesnt save , Jesus does.
The Church is necessary for salvation, yet it by itself does not save. Repentence is necessary for salvation, yet if by itself does not save. Belief in the Lord is necessary for salvation, yet it by itself does not save.
5,014 posted on
12/08/2010 5:54:22 PM PST by
MarkBsnr
(I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
To: MarkBsnr
The Church is necessary for salvation, yet it by itself does not save. Repentence is necessary for salvation, yet if by itself does not save. Belief in the Lord is necessary for salvation, yet it by itself does not save.
No the church is not necessary for salvation - it can not save . The “church” the Ekklesia are the saved , the ones that have been called out of the world . Every single member of the Ekklesia has repented and accepted that Jesus died to fully pay for their sins. They keep his commandments not because they are saved by doing so they keep them because they love him.
5,033 posted on
12/08/2010 10:33:43 PM PST by
Lera
To: MarkBsnr; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Belief in the Lord is necessary for salvation, yet it by itself does not save.Are you saying that Paul lied???
His epistles are full of statements where he says that salvation is through faith alone. It's the common theme of his writings.
Acts 16:29-32 And the jailer called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas. Then he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" And they said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house.
5,064 posted on
12/09/2010 8:31:24 PM PST by
metmom
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