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To: kosta50
Really? So, then you are saying only "insane" people will doubt that this imaginary "something" is real?

I think you are probably tickled to death at every opportunity we give you to twist words, but I was speaking of the concept that we have what is called a soul or spirit a "life force" or whatever you want to call it and it is what makes us us. It is gone at death. It is what I referred to as existing but is not something which can be seen, or proved, for that matter. It just IS. You boldly claim you only believe in what you can see or detect but I think you would agree that you cannot see your own soul and yet you believe you have one.

To take my example further, you cannot touch or see emotions such as love or joy, hate or anger, but you surely can admit that they are real and are experienced by the human species pretty much identically from person to person. That was kinda my point. We all exercise faith of some kind every moment of our lives. Some don't like to call it that, but it is, nonetheless.

5,326 posted on 12/13/2010 8:25:35 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
I was speaking of the concept that we have what is called a soul or spirit a "life force" or whatever you want to call it and it is what makes us us

So, do flatworms have it too? What makes flatworms what they are? 

It is what I referred to as existing but is not something which can be seen, or proved, for that matter. It just IS.

How can you insist that something is if it cannot be proved?

You boldly claim you only believe in what you can see or detect but I think you would agree that you cannot see your own soul and yet you believe you have one.

I would I agree with the first part of that statement but NATO with the last, and never mind that it is an amazing attempt to read my mind too. How can I believe I have something if I don't know what "it" is?

you cannot touch or see emotions such as love or joy, hate or anger, but you surely can admit that they are real and are experienced by the human species pretty much identically from person to person

First of all you are talking about physiological states, manifested in a characteristic way, not some free-floating Platonic "entities." Second, take any two human beings and ask them to define them and they will have some things in common but they will also differ. So, to claim that love "exists" is rather silly, imo. We can say that we "love" such and such which means we have strong desire for something (food, person, activity, you name it), which is again a physiological state.

We all exercise faith of some kind every moment of our lives.

If by faith you mean an educated guess, I agree. If by faith you mean certainty, then I don't.

5,336 posted on 12/13/2010 10:30:04 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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