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To: kosta50

Oh sure such as John 3:9. The born again do not sin, to which some say "as a habit." Oh, really? Every religion claims some transformative effects as a "sign" of its authenticity.

By the way, my referencer to john 3:9 was being sarcastic. You reference some person by the name Cryle (apparently a 19th century nut) who says (I quote from the page you referenced):

What reference to john 3:9 are you taking about? You are the only one that referenced that, and wrongly so, rather than 1Jn. 3:9

You don't remember your post 5537, referencing transformative effects? Just scroll down (about five short paragraphs) where it says "First of all, John says, 'Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;' and again, 'Whosoever is born of God sinneth not.' - John 3:9; 5:18." That is your own reference.

Sorry for whatever neglect on my part. I had searched and found no Cryle or text reference to - John 3:9; 5:18 from me, and the link was in indistinguishable green text in my original in My Comments, but searching all of FR today i found a post of the same page from 2001 (but not linked), and which has the same mistake, while other copies of it rightly have 1 John 3:9 which was intended.

Also check out the author whom you use as reference but don't even know.

And i presume you did. The name is not Cryle but Ryle, and rather than being a 19th century nut (except perhaps by your standards), he was the first Anglican bishop of Liverpool. He was an athlete who rowed and played Cricket for Oxford, where he took a first class degree in Greats and was offered a college fellowship (teaching position) which he declined. The son of a wealthy banker, he was destined for a career in politics before choosing a path of ordained ministry. He was educated at Eton and at Christ Church, Oxford, where he was Craven Scholar in 1836.

5,618 posted on 12/19/2010 7:18:43 PM PST by daniel1212 ( ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: daniel1212; sionnsar; kosta50
"The name is not Cryle but Ryle, and rather than being a 19th century nut (except perhaps by your standards), he was the first Anglican bishop of Liverpool."

J.C. Ryle. His sermons and tracts have been posted here on FR before. He was in many ways astonishingly Orthodox in his theology. His work is well worth reading, in my opinion. I believe it was the noble sionnsar who first posted his writings for us.

5,623 posted on 12/19/2010 7:29:59 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: daniel1212
And i presume you did. The name is not Cryle but Ryle, and rather than being a 19th century nut (except perhaps by your standards), he was the first Anglican bishop of Liverpool.

No I didn't. I just read what he wrote in your reference about the born-again not sinning.

5,631 posted on 12/19/2010 8:11:13 PM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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