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To: annalex; metmom; RnMomof7
But that is not the same as "faith alone". To have faith in Christ must include believing in what he tells you to DO. Sanctity, for example, is what you do. You read "your faith saved you" and you understand "so faith without works saved me". You understand wrong.

You ask for proof that Scripture tells us that salvation is by the grace of God through faith alone. I and others have repeatedly shown you the proofs from the Word of God. What you seem to not understand is that when God tells us something, dealing with the most critical subject of "what must a man do to be saved", he never minces words and that is what you seem to be doing. Why would Scripture say through faith in Christ we are purified, sanctified and justified and then omit the very thing you say is required - our works? The verses I gave never said faith plus some other thing, so we may have confidence that this is what God is speaking to. Salvation is by grace through faith, just as he says.

We are not saved by works of the law, you say you agree, but you then say it is by "works of love", "works of faith" that bring salvation. Yet, you totally leave out the impetus for those very works - the new birth. Salvation comes through faith in the saving grace of God who gave his son to be the propitiation for our sins. His blood pays for sin, completely. Our works are a by-product of the changed heart of flesh that was once stone, the new nature versus the old sin nature. It is Christ working in us to will and to act according to his good purpose. (Phil. 2:13)

So, if you choose to do your good works out of your own strength to ensure your salvation, then you are rejecting the grace of God that promises salvation to us through faith and that, by his power and grace, he works his will through us to the praise of his glory. It's the MOTIVE that he cares about. Works done to add to the grace he has already given us, nullifies his grace and will not save.

Titus 3:5-7
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

5,733 posted on 12/22/2010 8:29:03 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums; annalex; RnMomof7

If the works of the Law, which are from God, cannot save, what on earth makes people think that the works THEY decide on, the works which are from men, can save?


5,735 posted on 12/22/2010 8:34:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: boatbums; metmom; RnMomof7; Gamecock
salvation is by the grace of God through faith alone. I and others have repeatedly shown you the proofs from the Word of God

No you didn't. You showed me verses where faith is praised and leads to salvation. You also showed me verses where grace is said to be not of works. But theae are all Catholic doctrine, and none of these teaches that faith alone is salvific. If you think you showed me somethign other than what is the general description above, find that post and then kindly find my response to that post, and if that does nto work, get back to me.

Our works are a by-product of the changed heart of flesh that was once stone, the new nature versus the old sin nature

Just recently (see my 6,378 responding to Gamecock's 5700) Gamecock infored me that "no one claims that good works automatically follows faith". Apparently boatbums did not get the memo.

If works are a by-product of faith, why does the Bible exhort to them, including Titus 3 that you incompletely and incorrectly cite:

[1] Admonish them to be subject to princes and powers, to obey at a word, to be ready to every good work. [2] To speak evil of no man, not to be litigious, but gentle: shewing all mildness towards all men. [3] For we ourselves also were some time unwise, incredulous, erring, slaves to divers desires and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. [4] But when the goodness and kindness of God our Saviour appeared: [5] Not by the works of justice, which we have done, but according to his mercy, he saved us, by the laver of regeneration, and renovation of the Holy Ghost; [6] Whom he hath poured forth upon us abundantly, through Jesus Christ our Saviour: [7] That, being justified by his grace, we may be heirs, according to hope of life everlasting. [8] It is a faithful saying: and these things I will have thee affirm constantly: that they, who believe in God, may be careful to excel in good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

(Titus 3)

if you choose to do your good works out of your own strength to ensure your salvation, then you are rejecting the grace of God

This just makes no sense. I choose to do good works because the Bible tell me I will not be saved otherwise (Matthew 25:31-46). Also, it is precisely because "His blood pays for sin, completely" that my works can sanctify my by the sovereign operation of His grace. If there had been no Cross, there would have been no "laver of regeneration" and no "faith that worketh in charity" (Gal 5:6), and no "good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them" (Eph. 2:10).

6,388 posted on 01/01/2011 7:50:00 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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