Really? Which ones?
"But modern Oriental and Latin churches have evolved to the point that Scripture no longer means: God speaking."
You may want to read this. Its just a page or so but it will explain fairly well where The Church stands vis a vis the Scripture it canonized for The Church and the various ecclesial groups which have sprung up since the 16th century. http://www.serfes.org/orthodox/scripturesinthechurch.htm
Well, we can start with Jesus Himself. HE continually referenced Scripture and used it to validate Himself.
There are also Paul and Peter. Pillars of the church, no?
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2 Timothy 3
10 You, however, have followed my teaching, my conduct, my aim in life, my faith, my patience, my love, my steadfastness, 11my persecutions and sufferings that happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, and at Lystra—which persecutions I endured; yet from them all the Lord rescued me. 12Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it 15and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.
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2 Peter 3:15-17
15And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability.
See here.
Thanks for your links. I'll check them out later.