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This is, yet again, an attempt by the Usual Suspects to make the Eucharist strictly symbolic. The argument goes, “If it wasn’t symbolic, then Christ broke the Law, and Christ never broke the Law.”

Don't you believe that Jesus kept the Law perfectly?

Except when He healed a man on the Sabbath, or publicly forgave a man his sins which only God could do, or interrupted the legal stoning of the woman taken in adultery, or ate grain from a field on the Sabbath...

Oh, I guess not.....

We get around all that by saying that Christ fulfilled the Law, which He did.

Now He did ? Which is it. Did He or didn't He?

But it’s wrong to think He was being symbolic, when He specifically said, “My flesh is real meat, and My blood is true drink.” Followers left Him at that point, driven away by the forbidden cannibalistic implications. He did not call them back and say, “Hey, I was only kidding, it was symbolic.”

Jesus also said that if the woman at the well drank the water He gave her that she'd never thirst and taht anyone who drank it would have springs of living water flowing from them? Is that literal or symbolic?

Jesus said He was the bread of life. Does that make Him the Pillsbury Dough Boy?

He said he was the door to the sheepfold and the true vine. Is He made of wood or green and leafy?

Jesus called the cup *the fruit of the vine, as recorded in three of the Gospels.

Why don't Catholics insist on reading THAT literally? It's part of the same passage of the Last Supper said immediately after saying the cup is the new covenant in His blood.

Or are we again, dealing with selective literal/figurative/metaphorical interpretation on a sentence by sentence basis with no consideration of applying the same standards to the entire passage.

Catholics are astounding in their ability to reconcile and state two contradictory statements and proclaim that they're both true and not contradictory.

Scripture cannot be broken. Jesus did not eat His own flesh and blood in violation of the Law. He did not force His disciples to, neither did they in Peter's own words.

In either case, Jesus would have sinned and he could not have been the perfect sinless sacrifice for our sins.

But it’s wrong to think He was being symbolic, when He specifically said, “My flesh is real meat, and My blood is true drink.”

And what is Jesus saying by REAL meat?

Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on EVERY WORD that comes from the mouth of God.'" We feed on His Word.

Prov 3:8 "This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones". His Words.

Prov 4:20 My son, pay attention to what I say; listen closely to My Words.

Pr0v 4:21 Do not let them out of your sight, keep them within your heart;

Prov 4:22 "for they (His Words) are life to those who find them and health to a man's whole body". Jesus is The Word and bring health to the body ("a man does not live by bread alone.....")

Do this in remembrance of Me. He is The Word, eat on His Word daily, take IT into your heart for It is health for your body.

And remember we, also, know that He is speaking about His body, His church. His body/His Church feeds on His Word/Him alone. “Now you are Christ's body, and individually members of it.” (1 Corinthians 12:27;

Followers left Him at that point, driven away by the forbidden cannibalistic implications. He did not call them back and say, “Hey, I was only kidding, it was symbolic.”

Those that left Jesus understood what Jesus said as the RCC does - worldly thinking because they knew Him NOT. Jesus was talking of the supernatural and they didn't see Him as that because their thinking was on their logic/natural - what they considered REAL MEAT was - for they knew HIM not for He is The Supernatural Word. Eat the Word for He is The Word.

Jesus was talking about HIMSELF - He is The Supernatural Word - and they looked at Jesus as a man and we are to eat His flesh. They had no idea who He was. As we know, His Word is spiritually discerned and those that left didn't 'get it' because...

1 Cor 2:14 "The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

John 14:16 "And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever--

John 14:17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept Him, because it (the world) neither sees him nor knows Him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you".

John 7:39 "By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified".

Those that left had NO IDEA who Jesus was with their worldly thinking - that eating His body as literal flesh and blood. Jesus knew who He was - so who was wrong here? Should Jesus has said, I'm wrong - I didn't mean it that way? NO!! Those that left had to CHANGE their thinking and that can only be done by spiritual discernment - it was them that needed to change. Jesus is The Word and we do not live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD - in HIS KINGDOM - that John the Baptist cleared The Way for it to enter - it is not a worldly kingdom.

And this brings into how Jesus describes who His mother is - in HIS kingdom - His mother and brothers and sisters are those who HEAR and OBEY. And who are those that insist who His mother is? Those with worldly thinking - and it has nothing to do with HIS KINGDOM. Two different kingdoms and His Kingdom is Spiritually discerned. Natural man/thinking are the 'religious minded' and are lost for they KNOW HIM NOT. Like those that left Him because they knew Him not with their 'worldly' thinking about eating His flesh and blood which is cannibalism.

Do this in remembrance of Me....Who is He? He is The Word and His Word is Holy Spirit inspired; thus, spiritually discerned. His Kingdom.

And the traditions of man nullifies God's Word/His Kingdom. Two different kingdoms.

Mark 7:13 Thus you nullify (cancel) the Word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that."