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To: annalex; metmom
It is better to obey the gospel out of fear of losing one's salvation than not obey it at all. It is even better to obey the Gospel out of love for your Savior. One thing does not exclude the other. A Catholic Christian starts with the former and proceeds to the latter. The once-saved-always-saved are not even on that road; they, thanks to the Protestant charlatans that teach them convinced themselves to stay on the sidelines

How sad that in order to hold on to people, your religion uses fear of God to maintain its power. Just so sad. One thing the "once-saved-always-saved" - you so sneeringly deride - have all over you is the sweet assurance that being in the palm of our Father's hand brings. We KNOW we have eternal life - not wish, hope, plead or beg for - because we believe on the name of the only begotten Son of God (I John 5:13). His name means "God with us". Almighty God took on flesh and endured shame, beatings, insults and, finally, death upon a cross so that all our sins were paid in full. He paid the penalty our sin debt required.

So, like I said, you go right ahead and trust in your own good deeds and merits for your salvation. Let that be your motivation. I, on the other hand, will rest in the grace and mercy of my Savior Jesus Christ. I will lead a life that honors him, not because I believe I must do good deeds to be saved, but because of my gratitude for his love and the grace he lavished upon me and all those who trust in Christ alone for salvation. We have a new nature, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that creates within us the desire to do the works of God. Because we love him is why we obey his commandments. You totally miss the whole point and it is your lack of faith that is defective, not mine.

6,248 posted on 12/29/2010 7:27:34 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums

John 14:15-17 “If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.


6,249 posted on 12/29/2010 7:40:36 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: boatbums; annalex

Galatians 3:10-11

For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”


6,250 posted on 12/29/2010 8:32:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: boatbums; metmom
One thing the "once-saved-always-saved" - you so sneeringly deride - have all over you is the sweet assurance that being in the palm of our Father's hand brings. We KNOW we have eternal life

Your knowledge is however false. Re-read Matthews 25:41-46 and try convincing yourself that it does nto apply to you. Then come again how good works don't matter.

Fear of God, however, is what a reasonable man has. It is part of authentic Christian faith:

with fear and trembling work out your salvation. (Philippians 2:12).

He paid the penalty our sin debt required

Not if you reject the Gospel and embrace the false doctrines of Protestantism. God gave you a gift and you turned it down. I'd say a bit of fear would do you some good.

6,664 posted on 01/04/2011 7:33:39 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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