[OLD REGGIE]

Then no rituals, not even waving of the hands, is necessary, no works, not even going to church. I just find it disingenuous when Protestants make fun of Catholics/Orthodox and their "empty rituals", while they themselves wave aimlessly in the air as if saying "I am here!" to an omnipresent omniscient God.

FYI This is a Catholic Mass

[kosta50]

FYI This is a Catholic Mass

Sure, in order to keep Catholics from leaving the Church in huge numbers, the RCC finally gave in to the the mostly Filipino and Latino demands in 2003 to allow this. These people make up 120 million (10%) of Romes' 1.2 billion members.

In America these offshoots come mostly from Notre Dame and Duquesne ultra liberal centers.

None of this changes the fact that this is unrecognizable to the Church in the East or the West, at least from the 3rd century onward, or that it is pagan-like worship.