Were there a verse that said, in context "Man is saved by faith alone, and not by anything he does, not out of legal obligation, nor out of love of God, nor out of love of neighbor", and I still denied it, you then could say "you are denying the obvious".

There IS a verse that states it.....

Ephesians 2:1-10 1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— 3among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ— by grace you have been saved— 6and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

8For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

It doesn't say *works of the Law*, it just says works, period. It's all about God and Him GIVING us salvation.

It doesn't get much simpler than that.

You are correct, it just does not get simpler than that. But...there will still be those out there who are depending upon their works to save them. They will hide behind phrases like “works of love” or “works righteousness” or their favorite, “Faith without works is dead.”. They will pay lip-service to the idea of grace and faith in Jesus Christ as Savior, but behind it is really their own pride in their merit and good works that they believe will earn them eternal life. Faith really sits in the back seat on their limo ride to Heaven.

Annalex: Were there a verse that said, in context "Man is saved by faith alone, and not by anything he does, not out of legal obligation, nor out of love of God, nor out of love of neighbor"

Metmom: [quotes Eph 2:1-10, emphasizes verse 8] It doesn't say *works of the Law*, it just says works, period

Yes, Eph. 2:8 does refer to all kinds of work, but is says that grace is not the result of works of any kind, and every Catholic knows that. The dispute is whether salvation is a result of works of love alongside the faith, and the verse does not speak to that. It is a good idea to understand that nature of the argument before contributing to it.