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Evangelical: We Don't Need Rite of Exorcism, Just Jesus
Christian Post ^ | 12/16/10 | Audrey Barrick

Posted on 11/16/2010 7:17:47 AM PST by marshmallow

With renewed attention on the rite of exorcism, one theologian has chosen to articulate the evangelical stance on the ritual that few practice today.

The existence of the devil and demons are real but a rite of exorcism is unnecessary, said Dr. Albert Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in his popular blog Monday.

The only weapon Christians need is the name of Jesus, he stressed.

"Evangelicals do not need a rite of exorcism, because to adopt such an invention would be to surrender the high ground of the Gospel," Mohler wrote.

This past weekend, a group of Catholic bishops held a closed-door conference in Baltimore to discuss the theological foundations of the rite of exorcism and to present, in detail, the practice and use of the rites associated with exorcism.

Bishop Thomas J. Paprocki of Springfield, Ill., who organized the conference, said that demon possession is rare but that they have to be prepared.

"The real hope here and the purpose is to provide some training so that really every diocese could have its own resources to handle such inquires," he told ABC News.

Not all Catholic priests are on board with Paprocki's efforts.

One priest who sent the National Catholic Reporter a copy of the invitation letter by Paprocki back in May wrote: "CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? IN 2010."

Mohler does not deny accounts in the New Testament that show clear and real cases of demonic possession. Jesus and the Apostle Paul liberated afflicted individuals, he noted.

But the evangelical leader pointed out that no rite of exorcism was performed in those cases and there was no notion of a priestly ministry of ordained exorcists. The only thing involved in casting out demons from an individual was "the name of Jesus and the proclamation of the......."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
KEYWORDS: exorcism; freformed
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Before the food fight begins, let me just say that I have more time for Mohler's point-of-view than I have for the view of the dingbat Catholic priest and his fellow idiots at the National Catholic Reporter who think that demonic possession is so pre-Vatican II.
1 posted on 11/16/2010 7:17:48 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
The only thing involved in casting out demons from an individual was "the name of Jesus and the proclamation of the Gospel.

I don't believe Jesus used rites, holy water, crosses, etc. either...
2 posted on 11/16/2010 7:23:45 AM PST by TSgt (On 11/08/2010 at 0421 my life changed forever. I became a father.)
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To: marshmallow

**Evangelical: We Don’t Need Rite of Exorcism, Just Jesus**

Then why does the Bible relate stories of Jesus casting out demons.

He blessed the Apostles — the first priests — and that blessing continues down to the present day.

Yes, there are demons in this present world, make no mistake about it.


3 posted on 11/16/2010 7:25:45 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt

I’m not that familiar with the rite of exorcism, but I have been to healing Masses, and no special effects were used there. Just laying on of hands and praying for people to be healed through the power of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.


4 posted on 11/16/2010 7:27:32 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
there are demons in this present world, make no mistake about it.

They are certainly in the White House.

5 posted on 11/16/2010 7:28:27 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: marshmallow

I agree that the name of JESUS is all we need. Many years ago I was be stalked by a man. I was beside myself. My husband said that the next time he called, just say Jesus as many times as I could, he hung up after the third Jesus, and never bothered me again.


6 posted on 11/16/2010 7:30:01 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Salvation

So. Baptist believe in the laying on of hands for healing as well.


7 posted on 11/16/2010 7:31:50 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: thethirddegree

Yes! there is.


8 posted on 11/16/2010 7:32:48 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Salvation
Then why does the Bible relate stories of Jesus casting out demons.

Maybe you should read the article.

Mohler does not deny accounts in the New Testament that show clear and real cases of demonic possession. Jesus and the Apostle Paul liberated afflicted individuals, he noted.
But the evangelical leader pointed out that no rite of exorcism was performed in those cases and there was no notion of a priestly ministry of ordained exorcists. The only thing involved in casting out demons from an individual was "the name of Jesus and the proclamation of the Gospel."

9 posted on 11/16/2010 7:33:19 AM PST by slumber1 (Texas Rangers - 2010 American League Champions!)
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To: TSgt
There is much you don't know about Christ.

"But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written." John 21:25

10 posted on 11/16/2010 7:34:18 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: TSgt

I’m not taking the side of the RCC, but be very careful in how you approach this subject. Christ, after all, wasn’t a completely “normal” human and had authority that we don’t realize exists and likely never will this side of eternity.

We are told to rebuke demons in the name of Christ because it’s only through Him that we are given any authority at all. After all, He’s the vine and we’re the branch. Without Him, we’re nothing at all.

Other than that, I agree with what you said.


11 posted on 11/16/2010 7:34:26 AM PST by paladin1_dcs
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To: marshmallow

Can Satan cast out Satan?


12 posted on 11/16/2010 7:36:44 AM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: TSgt

Agreed, that Jesus didn’t use holy water.

He’s the One who makes things and people holy so that they can be employed for good.

But can we also agree that you are not Jesus? So maybe you might need what He didn’t need? Namely, invoking Him? He authorized his disciples to cast out demons by prayer and fasting and invoking his name.

That’s what the exorcism rites do. Albert Mohler couldn’t be bothered to discover that. Otherwise he might have wasted his breath on something else.


13 posted on 11/16/2010 7:36:44 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: marshmallow
Dr. Albert Mohler

Proof that anyone can get a doctorate.

14 posted on 11/16/2010 7:36:54 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: slumber1

Take another look, Al. The apostles and the 70 disciples were “authorized” by Jesus. It’s explicit: he sent them out with authority under His name. When some of His disciples asked why they were unsuccessful with some cases of demonic possession, he instructed them how to do it the next time.

Looks like authorized exorcists to me.

Mohler can’t see the nose on his face.


15 posted on 11/16/2010 7:38:59 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: paladin1_dcs
Christ, after all, wasn’t a completely “normal” human

That isn't the understatement of the year. It's not even the biggest understatement of the entire history of the universe since Creation ... It's the understatement of Eternity.

Have you any idea who and what Jesus IS.

Jesus told us exactly who and what He IS:

"Before Abraham was, I AM."

Jesus Christ is Lord. Jesus Christ is God. He isn't a human person at all, He is a Divine Person. He had and has ALL authority.

Without Him, we’re nothing at all.

Exactly.

16 posted on 11/16/2010 7:39:56 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: marshmallow
Works on Aliens[Fallen angels] as well.
17 posted on 11/16/2010 7:40:23 AM PST by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
There is much you don't know about Christ. "But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written." John 21:25

And there is much that Catholics make up. But hey, if it makes for a good movie...
18 posted on 11/16/2010 7:41:21 AM PST by TSgt (On 11/08/2010 at 0421 my life changed forever. I became a father.)
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To: slumber1
The exorcisms carried out in the NT were carried out by either Jesus, by Apostles, or disciples sent out with exorcism as part of their ministry.

Exorcism is part of the authority given by Christ to Peter and the Apostles.

"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

19 posted on 11/16/2010 7:44:44 AM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: TSgt

I seem to remember Him using mud and spittle once, but I guess that doesn’t count.


20 posted on 11/16/2010 7:48:26 AM PST by tiki
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