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To: Gil4
There is no need to lay the guilt for this at the doorstep of the Mormon so-called church when it is clearly not the normal intention or result of their teaching.

Do you post the same comment on threads regarding abuse by Catholic priests?

Are you overlooking that mormon leaders "called" this woman to a position of authority over children in several local congregations?

Have you seen or heard commercials promoting mormon family values on TV or radio? Have you seen posts on FR stating that mormons are "just the nicest people and have the bestest family values" as though family values ARE "the normal intention or result of their teaching"?

Have you personally known mormons who did NOT have the best family values?.....well, as a few others can attest, I have.

I would suggest that if you wish to complain about the notoriety given the mormon church, you might start with this woman who chose to go public with her abuse.

14 posted on 11/20/2010 9:49:19 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: greyfoxx39

So because this person behaves in a criminal way you are implying that the Mormon church can’t teach family values, the leaders must has known and can condoned this, their organization to help adopt unwanted babies must in some way agree or condone this abuse...

Pleeze...this sounds like something I would read on dummie funnies


17 posted on 11/20/2010 10:57:41 AM PST by skyman
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To: greyfoxx39
From my original post: "There is no need to lay the guilt for this at the doorstep of the Mormon so-called church when it is clearly not the normal intention or result of their teaching."

Your questions: Do you post the same comment on threads regarding abuse by Catholic priests?
No, because I do see some culpability for the Catholic Church in that area. The unbiblical requirement for priests to not marry tends to attract a disproportionate number of homosexuals to the priesthood. Catholic seminaries in the US of ten do little to dissuade that. Homosexuals are responsible for a disproportionate number of child sexual abuse cases. A priest often has a position of supervision ove children.

Are you overlooking that mormon leaders "called" this woman to a position of authority over children in several local congregations?
They obvously made a mistake. Their screening process failed. Inadequate screening processes are still fairly common in all denominations, although great strides have been made in that area.

Have you seen or heard commercials promoting mormon family values on TV or radio? Have you seen posts on FR stating that mormons are "just the nicest people and have the bestest family values" as though family values ARE "the normal intention or result of their teaching"?
Have you personally known mormons who did NOT have the best family values?.....well, as a few others can attest, I have.

No. It's possible that I knew some without great family values but didn't realize they were Mormon. But even if I did, it would still be the exception, not the rule. I also know Baptists, Catholics, Methodists, and others with less-than-stellar family values.
I will say that there is a limit to my respect for Mormon family values. Mormon Doctrine + Nice People = Hell.
But that comment I would post in a Catholic discussion as well.

53 posted on 11/21/2010 7:26:41 AM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: greyfoxx39
mormon leaders "called" this woman to a position of authority

Oops. Must have heard God wrong. Or the wrong god.

72 posted on 11/24/2010 10:12:00 AM PST by T Minus Four (Duh. We were talking about in the old days or not-so-distant old days)
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