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To: Servant of the Cross; mlizzy
While a beautiful response, Servant, it fails to answer the question, in this dispensation of the grace of God, as to "choosing to obey God". What does 'obeying God' mean today? It can be answered by what obeying God is NOT today:

"For I bear them record that they have a ZEAL of God, but according TO KNOWLEDGE.

For being ignorant of GOD'S RIGHTEOUSNESS, and going about to ESTABLISH THEIR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS, have NOT SUBMITTED themselves unto the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD.

For Christ IS THE END OF THE LAW FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS to every one that BELIEVETH." Rom. 10:3,4.

The doctrines of DO's and DON'Ts does not bring man and God closer. They put a wall of works for righteousness between man and God.

"But OF HIM are ye IN Christ Jesus, who of God is MADE UNTO US wisdom, and RIGHTEOUSNESS, and SANCTIFICATION, and REDEMPTION." 1 Cor. 1:30.

Do's and Don'ts do not provide righteousness before God. Being IN CHRIST is the only righteousness He recognizes. Being IN CHRIST means believing and accepting the FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST as our salvation. "That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord." 1 Cor. 1:31. You want to glory about "we do this" or "we would never do that"? The only people you are impressing are those who think their works of righteousness is impressing God.

So, what does God entreat us to do for Him during this time of "For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast". (Eph. 2:8,9). ?

It's very simple. So simple that it is a stumblingblock to those who cannot believe the TRUTH of God's word.

"For the love of Christ constraineth us: because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then all were dead.

And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

Wherefore HENCEFORTH know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.

THEREFORE if any man be IN CHRIST, he IS A NEW CREATURE: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

And all things are of God, WHO HATH RECONCILED US TO HIMSELF BY JESUS CHRIST, and hath GIVEN TO US THE MINISTRY OF RECONCILIATION:

TO WIT, that GOD WAS IN CHRIST, RECONCILING THE WORLD UNTO HIMSELF, NOT IMPUTING THEIR TRESPASSES UNTO THEM: and hath COMMITTED UNTO US THE WORD OF RECONCILIATION.

NOW THEN we are AMBASSADORS FOR CHRIST, as though God did beseech you by us; we PRAY YOU IN GOD'S STEAD, BE YE RECONCILED TO GOD.

FOR HE HATH MADE HIM TO BE SIN FOR US, WHO KNEW NO SIN; THAT WE MIGHT BE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN HIM." 2 Cor. 5:14-21.

THIS is what is "choosing to obey God" today, during this time of grace and reconciliation, is. It is NOT do's and don'ts. It is NOT condoms are no condoms. It IS the Gospel of the Grace of God, given freely, by Him, for our reconciliation.

45 posted on 11/21/2010 4:18:14 PM PST by smvoice (Defending the Indefensible: The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: smvoice
THIS is what is "choosing to obey God" today, during this time of grace and reconciliation, is. It is NOT do's and don'ts.

REALLY? You mean now it's okay to take Christ's members and make them members of a prostitute? Someone ought to tell St. Paul!

Stop and think for a second, smvoice. If your antinomian take on Christianity is really made any sense, then where do you get off telling Catholics that they are wrong? If someone thinks salvation comes through eating papaya yogurt, isn't telling them that they are wrong just setting up another law they have to obey?

If natural law is opposed to the Gospel, then using condoms isn't wrong, but neither is adultery, homosexual acts, idolatry, or any other sin you care to name. Follow your position through to its logical conclusion. If law goes out the window, all of it goes.

And incidentally, as far as the act itself is concerned, intercourse with a condom is morally indistinguishable from homosexual sodomy or masturbation. None of the three are the life-giving one-flesh act which God has ordained and approved within the bounds of matrimony.

One more thing. NO Christian denomination had anything good to say about artificial contraception before the Anglican Lambeth conference began the mass apostasy of Christendom in 1930. No Protestant group approved of it. Not even one.

48 posted on 11/21/2010 4:31:16 PM PST by Campion
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To: smvoice
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments". ... John 14:15

I would humbly suggest that the Ten Commandments is God's list of DO's and DONT'S.

54 posted on 11/21/2010 6:40:19 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (NPR: Air America with government funding to keep them alive)
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