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NIV Bible Error Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV
2010 | bibletruth

Posted on 11/28/2010 4:13:46 PM PST by bibletruth

NIV Bible error - Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV. See Isaiah 14:12.


TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; correctdoctrine; idiocy; illiterate; kjv; logicalfallacy; niv; niverrors; scholarslie; stretch; theology
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To: GOP Poet

Add in the fact that the Hebrew/Greek is from 2000 or so years ago.


41 posted on 11/28/2010 5:11:29 PM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: mnehring

LOL..indeed. The Church of the Self-Aggrandized


42 posted on 11/28/2010 5:14:34 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: FourPeas
In love... absolutely correct!

I am not blind in respect to Biblical exegesis and Bible theology as these FR call me; even as the Lord Jesus Christ was called by the scholar Pharisees's to have a demon; these FR scholars call me blind.

On the contrary, I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ and my eternal salvation has been accomplished by the cross of Christ dying for my sins; which are COMPLETELY FORGIVEN. Upon my last day on earth (death), I will be directly transferred into the presence of Christ. My salvation is assured by the Holy Spirit in Romans. My relationship with God is In Christ; that is: God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit are in my soul as is clearly explained in Romans through Philemon.

THEY call me blind; actually, Christ Jesus calls their kind blind, for their kind have unfortunately persecuted Christ Jesus (Acts 9) and continue to persecute the true saint and believers In Christ.

43 posted on 11/28/2010 5:18:58 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: mnehring

I know a few self-made “Biblical Scholars.” I’ve learned the hard way you can’t win with individuals who think they are as smart as God. Best thing to do is pray for them.


44 posted on 11/28/2010 5:18:58 PM PST by Lil Flower (Confucius says: Wise man never play leap frog with unicorn.)
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To: Lil Flower

Amen sister


45 posted on 11/28/2010 5:20:11 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: bibletruth
We conclude that the NIV means that Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV!

Heavenly Father, please intercede and help us from the gross errors found in the NIV and help people to find a much needed suitable translation of your perfect Word of God


Well, it certainly isn't the KJV; and, Heavenly Father, please help bibletruth to keep from making the error of the undistributed middle and coming up with illogical wackiness.
46 posted on 11/28/2010 5:20:58 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
The Bible versions issue often exposes the spiritual immaturity of supporters of the newer versions.

As well as the reactionary and historical illiteracy of the KJV-only folk.
47 posted on 11/28/2010 5:23:10 PM PST by aruanan
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To: bibletruth

Luke 18:

10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


48 posted on 11/28/2010 5:34:00 PM PST by Lil Flower (Confucius says: Wise man never play leap frog with unicorn.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The NIV is a very well documented corrupt version of the KJV. Consider this video series before you condemn.

http://www.youtube.com/user/kytekutter#p/u/16/ySheyYPB4Qo

49 posted on 11/28/2010 5:34:58 PM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Reid and Romney in only one generation.)
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To: mnehring

Take things personal much? You hijacked this poor guys’ thread because he had the nerve to not agree with your opinions. And, you start making fun of his church for good measure. You are a perfect example of why religion threads are sometimes controversial.


50 posted on 11/28/2010 5:36:00 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: SENTINEL; Blood of Tyrants
The NIV is a very well documented corrupt version of the KJV.

As someone who knew one of the NIV OT translators when I was in college, I say this is baloney.
51 posted on 11/28/2010 5:36:56 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Lil Flower

Bingo!

Luke 18:14 ...for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased.

You have correctly identified the Catholic church and Pope in their pride and self exaltment!

52 posted on 11/28/2010 5:37:32 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: freeplancer

Thanks, I appreciate that. Religion threads should be controversial, not just blindly following what some internet scholar says. That’s how cults get started. Everything should be tested.


53 posted on 11/28/2010 5:40:05 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Here’s a controversial one for you.
http://www.rockycreekbaptist.org


54 posted on 11/28/2010 5:41:12 PM PST by evangmlw
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To: bibletruth; All
From my home page:
Now from time to time I will call someone a “bigot.” This isn’t a personal attack but rather a description of behavior. Here is the definition: “A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices. The correct use of the term requires the elements of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs.”

and:

Know Nothings. This is a term to describe a type of Freeper that will post any anti-Catholic article or web site they can. Their virulent hatred of all things Catholic is nauseating. Plus they are consistent in their hatred. This is the original part of my home page on this topic:

For the anti-Catholics out there I find an almost universal ignorance of the role of the Virgin Mary, prayer, tradition, mass, saints, the role of confession and communion, and the role of the church. Often you are fed misinformation by petty twisted people filled with hatred. Please access the Catechism of the Catholic Church and educate yourself. If you don’t agree with what you read, fine. You don’t find it in your heart to do so. But regardless, it speaks poorly of you to denigrate another’s faith. I wouldn’t do it to someone who is of a Protestant denomination.

Whoever weakens faith in Jesus hurts themselves by hurting others. Plus it is just plain bad manners. But I have seen plenty of that from the Catholic bashers here. Over time it seems to be the same characters doing it too. They post attack posts on Catholics and their comments are exceedingly vile. I can excuse lack of knowledge but these same posters have been corrected over and over again. Therefore, they lie. They are not honest people. They are not good people. They do these things with hatred in their hearts. There is nothing Christian in their acts and you know there is no love or goodness in their souls. Pity them but brand them for what they are.

Should Christ himself come back and reveal himself, and declare the Catholic Church he founded on earth is his one true church, they would be the first to nail him to the cross again in fury. Pray they let the hatred for Christ and his Church go and they find Christ’s love before it is too late. I will never try and turn a protestant away from Christ or his way of believing even if I think it is lacking in the fullness intended by Christ. I will explain my beliefs and then leave it up to that person.

From what I have seen on your thread here and your comment on thirty years experience I fall back on the old expression: “There are people here with thirty years experience, and there are people with one year thirty times.”

I sent that privately to one person on this thread commenting on your absolute hubris. Something so anti-Christian it is breathtaking. But, your bold statement here is a flat out lie. So I thought to make it public.

55 posted on 11/28/2010 5:44:45 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: aruanan
The NIV is not based on the Translations from original Greek, but the Roman Catholic approved translations.

NIV is corrupted.

56 posted on 11/28/2010 5:49:22 PM PST by SENTINEL (Mormonism...from Ezra Taft Benson to Reid and Romney in only one generation.)
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To: bibletruth

Can you please explain what the Catholic Church or the Pope has to do with anything I posted?

And based on your email to me, are you accusing me of saying that you are not saved because I’m Catholic and your not?


57 posted on 11/28/2010 5:56:54 PM PST by Lil Flower (Confucius says: Wise man never play leap frog with unicorn.)
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To: evangmlw

Wow, you are right, a church whose entire mission is to divide instead of bring people to Christ. It seems their entire mission is to put down all other denominations.


58 posted on 11/28/2010 5:57:32 PM PST by mnehring
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To: SENTINEL
The NIV is not based on the Translations from original Greek, but the Roman Catholic approved translations.

The NIV is an evangelical Protestant product with many inaccuracies, and some instances of plain old eisegetical "make the Bible mean what I want". Don't blame us Catholics for it; we had nothing to do with it.

59 posted on 11/28/2010 6:06:12 PM PST by Campion
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To: bibletruth
You have correctly identified the Catholic church and Pope in their pride and self exaltment!

Shut up! We've been doing Biblical exegesis for 2000 years.

/s

60 posted on 11/28/2010 6:07:06 PM PST by Campion
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