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NIV Bible Error Lucifer AND Jesus are ONE in the NIV
2010 | bibletruth

Posted on 11/28/2010 4:13:46 PM PST by bibletruth

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To: narses

That’s right, thanks to Jesus Christ, I’ve not had a drink in 30 years. Also active in helping addicts off of drugs and alcohol. Unlike many, we “do not profess a form of godliness and deny His power.” If you refer to the truth as bigotry — I suggest you’re the one with the problem.


81 posted on 11/28/2010 6:50:12 PM PST by evangmlw
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To: evangmlw

Suggestion noted. Tested. Based on the objective falsity of your claim, suggested rejected. Try Truth instead of bigotry. Your judgmental nature is far from Christian in appearance, as one small example.


82 posted on 11/28/2010 6:52:54 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: IrishCatholic
"Should Christ himself come back and reveal himself, and declare the Catholic Church he founded on earth is his one true church"

To quote another accurate observer:

Christ would have to deny Himself to do such a thing. He could never proclaim that which is cleary contrary to written Scripture to be truth. To the contrary, this would be something the Anti-christ would do. He's will be a master at distorting the truth. Just like the teachings of Catholicism -- twisted and wrestling of the Scriptures.

Even Peter warned that those who wrest the Scriptures by not understanding the Apostle Paul as these do twist and wrest all the Scriptures.

For example: the Catholic Apocrypha NT books are NOT from Christ the Word of God, but the Catholics us it to twist:

prayers for the dead - Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45

purgatory - Wisdom 3:1-7

intercession of saints in heaven - 2 Maccabees 15L14

intercession of angels - Tobit 12:12-15

book of Revelation chapter 12 "woman closed"...is NOT Mary; it is Israel bring forth Messiah.

83 posted on 11/28/2010 6:53:11 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: evangmlw

So would you be helping Jesus Christ off alcohol? Or have the baptists redacted his celebratory use of alcohol out of the Holy Scriptures?

All God’s creation is good.


84 posted on 11/28/2010 6:53:19 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: bibletruth

Isa. 14:12 is directed to the king of Babylon, no proper name of “Lucifer” is there and “morning star” is just one way to translate the term.

Is this the best you can do?


85 posted on 11/28/2010 6:54:28 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: bibletruth

Darby version ( 12. How art thou fallen from heaven, Lucifer, son of the morning! Thou art cut down to the ground, that didst prostrate the nations! ) .... so far, the rest of the versions say day star, or son of the morning, or son of the dawn.


86 posted on 11/28/2010 6:54:39 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: bibletruth

LOL... that mindless regurgitation reads very cultish.


87 posted on 11/28/2010 6:54:44 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: big'ol_freeper

I’ll hold on to the Bible instead of church tradition. I understand when standing before God, His Word will be my Judge. I find great comfort and peace in that. I speak with Christ everyday and He speaks with me. He has given me peace, joy, eternal life, and the Holy Ghost. He has met my every need and His Spirit bears witness with my Spirit each moment of each day. Like Paul, “I know in Whom I have believed.” What I have is much more than some dead religon — I have “life and life more abundant.” I have victory and am “an overcomer in Christ.” I understand what John means when he says, “greater is He that is within me, than he that is in the world.” Religion is of the world, invented by Satan who “comes as an angel of light.” Only Truth can set a man free, “for whom the Son sets free is free indeed.” I have experienced and maintained that freedom for thirty years! I’ll hold on to what I have until the end thank you. You can have your religion!


88 posted on 11/28/2010 6:56:40 PM PST by evangmlw
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To: evangmlw

RE: I understand

No you don’t.


89 posted on 11/28/2010 6:59:03 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: count-your-change
Isa. 14:12 is directed to the king of Babylon

Sorry, you're not reading in context as to what God is talking about, you only see what other scholars talk about.

90 posted on 11/28/2010 6:59:41 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: big'ol_freeper

Da ya go displaying your ignorance over the biblical use of the word “wine.” Justify your drunkeness via Jesus and the wedding! No, Jesus never drank strong drink and He didn’t create 150 gallons of rotten juice to throw a drunken party. Jesus Christ never created anything tainted, and fermented juice is tainted. What He created was good and pure — not purtrid and corrupt! It’s down right blasphemous to suggest such a thing.


91 posted on 11/28/2010 7:01:08 PM PST by evangmlw
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To: big'ol_freeper

Yes I do, and I also understand what Jesus meant when He warned about “casting your pearls before swine.” Obviously what’s happening here.


92 posted on 11/28/2010 7:03:27 PM PST by evangmlw
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To: bibletruth
In context.

This whole section in Isaiah 14 is a taunt at the King of Babylon.(also King of Assyria)Words can mean different things in different contexts.

This is one of those prophesies that is of differing theological beliefs and yours is not one of them.

Those kings of nations he has already conquered are taunting him as he has arrived in hell.

(Is it the king of Babylon or Satan?)
I believe they are taunting the king as Satan and taunting his own belief that he was a bright morning star.

93 posted on 11/28/2010 7:03:48 PM PST by right way right
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To: narses

Wow. I went to that website, lots of kool-aid drinking going on over there. I’m so glad that Catholics do not think of Baptists what Baptists think of Catholics. Praise God he brought me from the Baptist church to the Catholic church!!


94 posted on 11/28/2010 7:04:06 PM PST by Lil Flower (Confucius says: Wise man never play leap frog with unicorn.)
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To: evangmlw

LOL...thanks for clarifying. They did redact Holy Scripture or at least completely bastardize the understanding of it.

The lunacy and mindlessness of sola scriptura types never ceases to amaze me.


95 posted on 11/28/2010 7:04:17 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: bibletruth; count-your-change

Actually, he’s referring to the actual Hebrew context of Isaiah, not the muddled translations used in the Christian bibles which bear little relation to the actual Tanakh...this passage is about the King of Babylon, not a mythical “fallen angel” ...magritte


96 posted on 11/28/2010 7:04:23 PM PST by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: big'ol_freeper
quote of big-ol freeper: “NON-Biblical” is simply Satanic deception

I wouldn't say it that way, but Christ Jesus NEVER used the following books: Tobit, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom, in order to teach these false doctrines:

prayers for the dead - Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45

purgatory - Wisdom 3:1-7

intercession of saints in heaven - 2 Maccabees 15L14

intercession of angels - Tobit 12:12-15

97 posted on 11/28/2010 7:04:31 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: Lil Flower

That is a blessing.


98 posted on 11/28/2010 7:04:50 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: bibletruth

RE: Christ Jesus NEVER used the following books...

Historically and geographically wrong.


99 posted on 11/28/2010 7:06:29 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("[T]here is nothing so aggravating [in life] as being condescended to by an idiot" ~ Ann Coulter)
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To: SENTINEL

Read the history in how God himself protected the ( Textus Receptus ) ... many tried to wipe out the Textus Receptus, but, today, it still remains.


100 posted on 11/28/2010 7:07:06 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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