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To: nmh
If Mary was a "sinner" then you are faced with explaining how "sin" gave rise to "sinlessness". One must explain how the sinful flesh of the Blessed Virgin give rise to the pure, sinless flesh of her Son, for Jesus was "without sin", as Scripture says and He was truly her Son. Fully God and fully human.

Where God is, sin is not. On that you can depend. Is heaven a place of sin? Of course not. Can God and sin coexist in the same dwelling? No. Jesus came down from heaven and the womb of the Virgin became His dwelling. Could he be nourished, protected, and given life in the Virgin's womb by flesh which was corrupted by sin? Could corruption give rise to unblemished sinlessness?

Bear in mind that it is not Catholics who choose to give Mary a special place in the history of salvation. God himself did that. Only she is the Mother of the Savior. That makes her unique. God, being God, was under no obligation to dwell for nine moths in her womb or be subject to her at Nazareth. But that was God's plan. God's plan of salvation included a special role for her. Jesus could have come to us in a fiery chariot, a spaceship, or he could have come down the same way he ascended at the end of his earthly ministry; on a cloud. He had no need of human means.

Yet He came to us through Mary whose "yes" was freely given to the angel Gabriel.

Think about this in terms of the overall battle of good versus evil. A fallen angelic being who is above all proud (Satan), is defeated by the humble "yes" of a mere human, a poor Jewish girl, all the more to torture and vex him. Mary's participation in the plan of salvation makes Satan's defeat all the more dramatic and dismal. In a fight, it's one thing to be humbled by another spiritual being....but a human??

This is why Satan reserves a special hatred for the Virgin. Jesus doesn't have a problem with her like a lot of Protestants. She was/is His Mother. She always will be. He "was subject to them" as Scripture tells us, meaning Mary and Joseph. Horrors!! Cover your eyes! Stop your ears! Jesus was subject to Mary His Mother. Oh no!!

No, this isn't "brainwashing". It's historical, biblical fact. It's the way Jesus wanted it. The Holy Family; Jesus Mary and Joseph. There's a touch of Islam in much of the Protestant approach to God; "God's gonna get real mad if you (make your own list).................a) honor His Mother.......b) make images of either Him or His Mother and revere them (we can do that to members of our own families but not Jesus).........and He's gonna smite ya.......etc etc". It's an irrational, vengeful God who can be found only in Scripture and who operates only in the ways we say. As John says.........."but there are many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written."

Try not to put God in a box. The narrow, minimalist Protestant approach to Jesus misses so much.

61 posted on 11/30/2010 8:46:56 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

“Where God is, sin is not. On that you can depend. Is heaven a place of sin? Of course not. Can God and sin coexist in the same dwelling? No. Jesus came down from heaven and the womb of the Virgin became His dwelling. Could he be nourished, protected, and given life in the Virgin’s womb by flesh which was corrupted by sin? Could corruption give rise to unblemished sinlessness?”

No disrespect intended, but Jesus Christ came into our sinful world and lived for some 30 years with sinful people. God cannot be corrupted under any circumstance.

God Bless


62 posted on 11/30/2010 8:54:55 AM PST by Vegasrugrat
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To: marshmallow

How did Mary get to be “sinless”, seeing that she was born of sinful woman?


79 posted on 11/30/2010 11:52:08 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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