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To: verdugo
You are nothing, but a cliche parrot, a small mind, with nothing to contribute to a discussion.

Feel better?

All of those real Catholics do not believe Russia has been consecrated.

If you say so

People like you blaspheme the message of Fatima by saying that what we have today is the period of peace and the conversion Russia.

Don’t put words in my mouth. What I said was “It’s been done and the conversion will happen according to God’s timeline, not yours.

It's laughable that anyone can think that this, what we have today is the reason why Our Lord performed the Miracle of the Sun, and put Lucia through the ringer as her quest for 80 years.

Did I mention you specialize in erroneous speculations?

People like you should put your body where your mouth is and move to those "paradises of your conversion of Russia" like Cuba, Russia, or China, to name a few.

People like you need to pay attention to detail and stop attributing comments to someone who didn’t make them. It would also be helpful if you would contemplate the advice given by St. Padre Pio before you blow a gasket.

50 posted on 12/07/2010 5:39:56 AM PST by pegleg (Lies will seek you out, but the truth must be sought.)
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To: pegleg

re: People like you need to pay attention to detail and stop attributing comments to someone who didn’t make them. It would also be helpful if you would contemplate the advice given by St. Padre Pio before you blow a gasket.

The difference between you and I is that when you say something, I read it, and think on it. While you ignore completely whatever anyone writes, as your mind is already made up. If you had read the saints quotes that I sent you, you would realize that we are living in desperate times as most people are going to hell.

“Pray, hope, and don’t worry. Worry is useless. God is merciful and will hear your prayer...Prayer is the best weapon we have; it is the key to God’s heart. You must speak to Jesus with not only your lips but with your heart. In fact on certain occasions you should speak to Him only with your heart...” (Padre Pio)

What Padre Pio wrote has nothing to do with our discussion on Fatima. I’m not “worried”. You call the 1900 years of saints quotes “fatalistic”, and you quote Padre Pio as if he’s saying “don’t worry be happy”. Worry, in the sense that Padre Pio is saying, is called despair, which is a sin against hope. However, in the sense that you take it, “the saints were fatalistic” (you said it!), and for you we have to not let anything disturb our sleep through life (like the 1960’s hippies, “smoke a joint man, and it’’l pass, peace, man”.

Fatalism and despair are not occuring on my side, they have nothing to do with anything I write. If an atomic bomb was dropped on my head tomorrow, I could care less, God knows what is best for me, and if He so chooses to take me, so be it.


51 posted on 12/07/2010 7:17:57 AM PST by verdugo
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To: pegleg
re: People like you blaspheme the message of Fatima by saying that what we have today is the period of peace and the conversion Russia. It's laughable that anyone can think that this, what we have today is the reason why Our Lord performed the Miracle of the Sun, and put Lucia through the ringer as her quest for 80 years.

Don’t put words in my mouth. What I said was “It’s been done and the conversion will happen according to God’s time line, not yours.

The consecration has not been performed as requested by Our Lady. If Pius XII did not do it in 1948 by specifically mentioning Russia, then logically JPII did not do it by his not even mentioning Russia.

Read scripture about Gedeon (really read the whole thing, not just what I give you).

17 Judges 7:2 And the Lord said to Gedeon: The people that are with thee are many, and Madian shall not be delivered into their hands: lest Israel should glory against me, and say: I was delivered by my own strength.

Read Gedeon and you will understand how God works his miracles. God wants EVERYONE to know that a miracle has occurred. The conversion "happening over a long time line" (1984 to 2010++++) will not convince anyone that it was caused by a "consecration" in 1984. That is why He asked through the Blessed Mother that the consecration be done in union with all the bishops, and that the object of the consecration be ONLY Russia. The consecration must be in the open, that is why all the bishops. It will be controversial, for EVERYONE to likely ridicule. No one will be able to deny that it was done. No one then will be able to hide the connection with the miracle of the conversion, it will be instant, like Gedeon's victory. God did not waste the greatest miracle in the history of mankind, Fatima, for no one to notice.

52 posted on 12/07/2010 7:46:56 AM PST by verdugo
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