Posted on 12/07/2010 5:20:13 PM PST by truthfinder9
I disagree. The verses quoted in Post 48 show Mary's 'offerings' being criticized by apparent 'Believers' (Martha probably was one ... Judas -- no). They said Mary's resources could be applied to better purposes.
That is the gist of your complaint.
And if you don't think the construction of a 'to scale' replica of Noah's Ark is a worthy cause - by all means you are free to donate where you see fit.
You are correct - I apparently don't understand the 'OEC' position (unless the position is that of straddling a fence).
Do they really believe in a global catastrophic flood wherein only 8 people, and the land animals and birds, that were within the Ark survived? That this flood covered the whole earth, and that the land was ripped up with upheavals as 'the fountains of the great deep were opened up'?
If so - then good for them. At least they got that part right.
Yet that’s what you do, a global flood with no evidences. Yes, I have seen all the supposed YEC evidences and they don’t hold up under 5 minutes of scrutiny. YECs force-fit their theory onto nature and the Bible after starting with their conclusion before hand. Lot’s of smoke and mirrors, but it doesn’t hold up side-by-side with OEC. Real funny thing is that the whole reason behind the global flood was to explain way the geologic layers that evolutionsts used to “prove” evolution, yet they don’t prove evolution at all! Quite the opposite!
So you believe in an irrational, nonsensical God? You have to if you think plants came before the Sun and Moon. The original Hebrew states they appeared, not created, after, which also happens to agree with the natural record. This is one of the inconvienent truths. You would think more people would question the nonsensical notion of plants before the Sun. It’s a prime YEC contradiction. And those other things fit in the OEC “timeline.” I thought you said you used to be a OEC? I can pick up any OEC book and see what you are saying isn’t true.
Again a false comparison. You don’t really get those verses, but that’s ok.
So you believe in an irrational, nonsensical God? You have to if you think plants came before the Sun and Moon. The original Hebrew states they appeared, not created, after, which also happens to agree with the natural record. This is one of the inconvienent truths. You would think more people would question the nonsensical notion of plants before the Sun. It’s a prime YEC contradiction. And those other things fit in the OEC “timeline.” I thought you said you used to be a OEC? I can pick up any OEC book and see what you are saying isn’t true.
The Hebrew says va-ya’as (1:16) which means “and He made.”
‘Appeared’ would use the root ra’ah, not asah.
There’s nothing nonsensical about plants before the sun because there was light from the first day.
Now, there is an aspect of plants that was not created until the 6th day and that’s the thorns and thistles. They were formed as a result of Adam’s sin but it would be hard for a OEC’er to explain why we would find fossilized thorns from a time long before the creation of man.
“Real funny thing is that the whole reason behind the global flood was to explain way the geologic layers that evolutionsts used to “prove” evolution, yet they don’t prove evolution at all! Quite the opposite!”
I don’t see how you can read the Bible and not conclude that there was a global flood that covered the entire earth, including the highest mountains.
‘asa translated as “made” which is in the form of a completed action. Past tense. Nice try though. Funny, don’t see thorns and thistles in my Bible. Another classic YEC insertion.
‘asa translated as “made” which is in the form of a completed action. Past tense. Nice try though. Funny, don’t see thorns and thistles in my Bible. Another classic YEC insertion.
There are some obvious clues, like where did Noah’s bird find an olive leaf if the world had been so radically wiped out like the YEC flood theory claims? Did the olive tree grow at superplant speed? Or was the flood local and the bird flew outside of the flood zone?
P.S. Where’s this msytery light coming from? Lots of leaps in logic in the YEC view. Would God be so obtuse?
I’m all for capitalism. Ironically, however, Noah’s ark preceded a flood that wiped out man’s excesses.
“Funny, don’t see thorns and thistles in my Bible. Another classic YEC insertion.”
Yeah we must’ve snucked in Genesis 3:18 when nobody was looking /sarc
“There are some obvious clues, like where did Noah’s bird find an olive leaf if the world had been so radically wiped out like the YEC flood theory claims? Did the olive tree grow at superplant speed? Or was the flood local and the bird flew outside of the flood zone?”
The whole point of sending a bird out was to see if the flood was over. Please see Genesis 8:8-9 “for water was upon the surface of all the earth.” He waited 7 more days, sent the dove out again and behold! The dove came back with the leaf that evening. That’s when he knew the waters had subsided.
What exactly is the “FactFinding Times”?
Would Jesus build a Christian themed amusement park?
“freshly plucked olive leaf” Where did he get it?
No, in fact Noah’s flood destroyed the people who were more worried about amusement than the world around them.
“freshly plucked olive leaf” Where did he get it?
From a plant that wasn’t there 7 days earlier. Otherwise the dove would’ve plucked it the first time it was sent.
So an olive tree grows in 7 days?
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