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Christians Embarassed of Proposed "Noah's Ark Amusement Park"
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Posted on 12/07/2010 5:20:13 PM PST by truthfinder9

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To: The Theophilus

What is really amusing is that you think that questioning fellow Christians isn’t “charitable.” So everything that has a “Christian” label is beyond review or questioning? That’s cultish thinking. “Test everything” was a biblical mandate the last time I checked and it didn’t say “test everything outside of Christianity only.” I hope there aren’t a lot of people like you amongst Christainity who automtically think any challenge must be from an “atheist” or is “befriending” the world. Jesus told us to think as adults, not as children. Marching in lockstep with what our “leaders” tell us just because they are Christians ignores that they are fallible humans.


121 posted on 12/19/2010 9:36:53 PM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9

Did you hear the sound of dust falling off of shoes?
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122 posted on 12/20/2010 8:28:00 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"big-box model of worship and evangelism"

That is a big problem, this type of Wal-Marting of Christianity is what's making it a punchline.

123 posted on 12/20/2010 8:32:01 AM PST by montyspython
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I would think that he would have frowned on such an endeavor, since when has Christ been marketing pitch for a roller coaster?


124 posted on 12/20/2010 8:40:37 AM PST by montyspython
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To: montyspython
I had a similar debate with relatives once. They were upset that I had cast doubt on the merits of some kind of goofy 'Christian' enterprise someplace. My point was that everything must be viewed through the prism of Christ and Christ crucified. That means, of course, that whatever we endeavor to do must be secondary to lives that are broken and in concert with clear Scriptural directives.

The case of the spray painted 'Jesus saves' slogan on trains, bridges and the like was contested as unknowable since God works his will as he sees fit. I argued that while it might be used of God to convict the reader, it is not inspired of God since it is violating property rights and disobeying clear legal injunctions. I was cast as the pariah because I was assumed to limit God.

I usually go further if somebody is willing to listen. The truth is that God doesn't even need our efforts to achieve his ends. That much is clear since he can raise witnesses from stones and the wealth of cattle on a thousand hills belong to him. The great point is that he is looking to use frail, sinful and foolish people as tools provided that they are broken and yielded to him. The great problem with Christianity is that Christians don't have a clue to what brokeness is. Each man a law unto himself. Since Adam, we have gone our own way and every epoch of the body of believers has distinguished itself after a time by going the way of the flesh and instituting it's own rules, rituals and meanings to clear and unchanging Scripture. As a consequence, we have endless circuses and busy-work trying like hell to please God and do 'his' work for him.

Brokeness in the human will (recognizing our futility). Rest in the finished work of Christ (giving up trying to 'please' God). Submission to the Spirit (yielding our will to none but the prompt of the Spirit consistent with the Word). Meditation on the word and ceaseless prayer (an ongoing, humble, inward dialogue with God). Let God arrange circumstances and act in accord with the word (looking for the moments of special action beyond taming ourselves and our tongues).

Only in this way, I believe, we meet the spirit and letter of the law and become clay in the Potter's hands.
125 posted on 12/20/2010 4:46:25 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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