Posted on 12/10/2010 9:27:36 AM PST by marshmallow
Does this mean that it is not to be found in Scripture?
No, it means that Scripture is given to us by the Church, to whom is entrusted its authentic interpretation.
Ping!
That’s not what Jesus said.
God’s Church and the Catholic Church are not one in the same, though. Catholics constitute part of God’s Church, but are not its only component.
It’s not what Gallileo said either.
Oh bother. Mohammedans.
Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Ephesians 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Ephesians 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Ephesians 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
You’re a masochist, no?
THIS is utter and absolute blasphemy on a scale beyond comprehension.
BLASPHEMY.
How many of the folks replying indignantly have actually read either the article, or the publication date?
The writings of the Early Church Fathers open a window many never knew existed, as some of the comments here are witness.
I'm happy to post them. It's not about me and I don't take it personally.
They probably got no further.............
So everyone outside the Catholic “Church” is devoid of all Christian truth?
I’m always struck by how very little has changed since the Patristic age.
the same question can just as easily be asked of those who heartily endorse it.
Suggest you point them to 2 Peter 1:20.
Irenaeus is recognized as a saint by the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Roman Catholic Church, the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod,[6] and the Episcopal Church (United States).
No.
Elements of truth are to be found outside the Catholic Church.
The headline assumes the word "whole" before the word "truth". Written in 185 AD, "truth" meant truth; i.e. the "whole" truth.
Today, "truth" can mean anything; a half-truth, a kind of truth..........we parse and sift words.
We've lost the sense of truth. Once upon a time, truth was understood to mean something uncorrupted and entire.
No longer.
"Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." ~ Jesus Christ
The latter "interpretation" rings loud and clear.
Christ did NOT command us to humor an elite corrupt "church," its corrupt "leaders," its corrupt "interpretation," and an Apostles Creed that is found NO WHERE in the Holy Scriptures.
We are commanded to cut out the "middle man," and go straight to Jesus, thank you.
"If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it." ~ Jesus Christ
Irenius was before the selling of indulgences and the other corruptions and Luther’s call to end the practices. A question that Protestants and Catholics might answer differently is: Would the early Christians have stood with the Catholic sellers and betrayers of the faith in the middle ages or with the Catholic reformers? It was only after reform was rejected that the Protestant / Catholic schism happened (prior reformers were killed as heretics). I think that pervasive and long term corruption shows that the Catholic church is not the one true church but is one of many demoninations. The one true church is that of Christ, all true Christians regardless of denomination. Christ should be the focus, not denomination.
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