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Gospel for Asia ^ | December 9, 2010

Posted on 12/10/2010 10:21:34 AM PST by wmfights

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To: Amos the Prophet

How should I answer when you ask me questions?


51 posted on 12/11/2010 10:04:24 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Amos the Prophet

Excuse me. I should have said, how else should I answer, when you keep asking me about myself, my beliefs, and why I believe as I do?


52 posted on 12/11/2010 10:08:06 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: stuartcr

I dunno. The Religious Monitor does not like the tenor of our discussion. Perhaps another time and place. Thank you for the pleasentries. I daresay I have tried your patience.


53 posted on 12/12/2010 4:59:48 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: stuartcr; Amos the Prophet
I have never said that I know anything, merely that I believe. I believe I am the way God wants me, because I do not believe I could be any other way.

I do appreciate your honest straight forward answers and questions. It's much easier to have a discussion when we aren't trying to "score debating points, or play gotcha".

Placing all faiths on equal footing has an inherent problem. Christianity is the only Faith that has a proclaimed Savior. All other faiths only offer a path towards enlightenment and offer no guarantee that if the individual tries to do everything right that God will be satisfied and they will go to heaven. As a result Christianity stands apart.

Thus, we end up with only two choices concerning Christianity. Is Jesus who He says He is, or is He insane?

I see all kinds of proof that Jesus was exactly who He said He was; fulfillment of prophesy, eye witness accounts, and the lives that His believers led. God has blessed you with the ability to think, feel and discern. It's up to the individual to do it.

54 posted on 12/12/2010 9:58:09 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Precisely.
Christianity is the only religion revealed by God as His single truth. In that sense it is not a religion at all. It is simply the truth.
One can be a follower of Christ and a follower of other religions since they are disciplines, not metaphysics. With the exception of Muslim, Hindu and animist religions (all of which exclude Christ as the Son of God) one can be a practicing Buddhist, Taoist or Jew and accept the Godship of Christ. Wickins are in conflict with scripture as are spiritualists. Unitarians can be followers of Christ but most do not.


55 posted on 12/12/2010 11:05:17 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

No problem, but to be honest, I think it’s your tenor not really ours, judging by his remarks.


56 posted on 12/12/2010 12:55:39 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: wmfights

While your beliefs require the need for a Savior, I do not see an inherent problem, because I do not believe there is a need for a Savior.

I have no idea if Jesus is who He says He is, how would I?

If I did, then I would believe as you do, wouldn’t I?


57 posted on 12/12/2010 1:13:08 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: stuartcr

He did jump the shark. Disallowing discussions about personal salvation on a religious forum is - How shall I say it? - entirely too politically correct.


58 posted on 12/12/2010 2:38:37 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: wmfights

Some souls must be allowed to stew in their own juices.


59 posted on 12/12/2010 2:40:56 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

I guess you should take it up with him.


60 posted on 12/12/2010 3:24:03 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: stuartcr
I have no idea if Jesus is who He says He is, how would I?

But you have made a judgment by saying there are multiple faiths of equal standing. Jesus proclaimed the only way to the Father is through Him. Jesus proclaimed an exclusive faith, it's Him or nothing.

61 posted on 12/12/2010 4:40:31 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

I have not made a judgement because I have not said there are multiple faiths, I have said I believe there are. I do not claim to know any of this, I just have beliefs.

I’m sure that for those that God created with that belief and for that purpose, it’s true.


62 posted on 12/12/2010 5:26:02 PM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: stuartcr

I see your up to your enticments again. How many questions will you ask or create this time which none will satisfy your itchy ears?


63 posted on 12/12/2010 5:33:00 PM PST by caww
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To: stuartcr

I have heard of God the watchmaker but never God the boxmaker. Your world is filled with little boxes, all rigidly organized, sealed up and unchanging. Curious. God made you just the way you are and that is the way you are. Strange God.


64 posted on 12/12/2010 7:48:11 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: caww

I was thinking of 12, for the Christmas season.


65 posted on 12/13/2010 6:30:46 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Amos the Prophet

My boxes have the luxury of changing volume, shape, color, etc., all as God wishes.

As I have said many times over the years...I may very well be right or wrong, and if I wake up tomorrow with a completely different set of beliefs...so be it.


66 posted on 12/13/2010 6:34:40 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: stuartcr

I seek to understand you. Do you believe that God is in absolute control of and determines everything such that nothing exists except by God’s Will?


67 posted on 12/13/2010 7:19:25 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

Yes


68 posted on 12/13/2010 7:25:48 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: stuartcr; betty boop

Your beliefs are best described as universal theism or Pantheism. You may choose to live in such a creation, or try to. You will, however, likely abandon such ideas when faced with the impossible idea that God is both good and evil.
If God is the progenitor of all things and nothing exists except by His will and plan He is a despot. As I said earlier, and was scolded for saying it, you are a lost soul.
If that is too personal so be it, although the Mod seems to have more trouble than you with my observation.
I will go one step further and state, in the words of Bishop E Stanley Jones, “your God is my Satan.”


69 posted on 12/13/2010 7:07:44 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (The American Revolution is just as unpopular with statists today as it was at our founding.)
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To: Amos the Prophet

I do not consider that idea to be impossible for God.

I have no trouble with your observation, as it is meaningless, just as you would have no trouble with a similar observation if I were to make one of you.


70 posted on 12/14/2010 6:34:45 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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