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To: Pmary65; topcat54
Daniel’s vision has been interpreted with various methods of calculation from the time in the second rebuilding of the temple by Nehemiah in 445 B.C. to a later tangible crucifixion year in the ‘cutting off ‘ of the Messiah.

OK, I've got a good idea where this is coming from. Likely, bog standard dispensationalism. If that's not where you're going, well, please excuse me.

If you pick just the right starting point, and do the math juuuust right, you land at Jesus' triumphal entry into Jerusalem in 33 AD. It's complicated and fragile, and, according to a Jewish commenter in a previous thread where this came up (maybe Topcat54 will have that bookmarked) makes incorrect assumptions about how the ancient Jewish year went.

And, it completely fails to take into account what's happening in the first half of Daniel 9.

http://www.pmary65.wordpress.com

Blog flogging.

11 posted on 12/13/2010 6:06:01 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Lee N. Field
And, it completely fails to take into account what's happening in the first half of Daniel 9.

Please explain in detail what you mean ...

12 posted on 12/13/2010 7:01:07 AM PST by dartuser ("The difference between genius and stupidity is genius has limits.")
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To: Lee N. Field; GiovannaNicoletta; papabrody; Quix; FW190; Ezekiel; ROTB; circlecity; Joya; Doofer; ..
II Timothy 3:16 (all quotes/KJV)

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Daniel 9:25, 26

Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall the Messiah be cut off…

* Many biblical SCHOLARS interpret ‘the Messiah the Prince’ from these verses as the One and only true Messiah being Jesus the son of the living Father. Thus being said, the ‘cut off’ point would pertain to a crucifixion year where the set scriptural conditions must have applied. For example;

John 11:9

Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours [light] in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

Matthew 12:39, 40

But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be 'three days and three nights' in the heart of the earth.

Mark 8:31

And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and 'after three days' rise again.

Matthew 27:63

Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, 'After three days' I will rise again.

Acts 1:5 (on the day of ascension)

For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost (the day of Pentecost) 'not many days' hence.

Best Regards – Pmary65

37 posted on 12/15/2010 12:01:59 AM PST by Pmary65 (http://pmary65.wordpress.com/)
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To: Lee N. Field

I searched out your ‘User’ name to see that you use the word ‘dispensationalism’ quite frequently in your responses to other threads. That’s okay - I won’t take it personally!

Best Regards - Pmary65


38 posted on 12/15/2010 12:27:56 AM PST by Pmary65 (http://pmary65.wordpress.com/)
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