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Common Atheists' Myths
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_myths.html ^

Posted on 12/20/2010 10:32:51 AM PST by truthfinder9

Introduction

I know that Christians are supposed to be the ones who believe a lot of myths. However, the vast majority of atheists believe myths such as religion is the primary cause of wars, and the vast amount of atrocities have been caused by religious people, the Bible has been vastly changed over the centuries, Paul invented Christianity, and the list goes on and on. Find your favorite myth below and read the article so that you won't embarrass yourself in the future.

Atheists' Myths

For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. (2 Timothy 4:3-4)

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
KEYWORDS: atheism; atheists; evidences; facts; proofs
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1 posted on 12/20/2010 10:32:57 AM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9

If God does not exist, why the hell are the atheist libs so worried about him? Why do they feel the need to have faith in God banned in the United States?


2 posted on 12/20/2010 10:39:01 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Because they are smarter than you and know what is best for you.


3 posted on 12/20/2010 10:43:37 AM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9

Common Atheists’ Myths = there is no GOD.


4 posted on 12/20/2010 10:43:40 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I watched a debate between a theist and atheist before and the atheist admitted that it took faith to be an atheist because they were never able to prove scientifically that there is no God.

Also, it is extremely ignorant, according to all scientific evidence, to think that something can be created from nothing.....That there is not a supernatural existence at the beginning of time.

They want God eliminated so there is no good and evil. They can be pederasts like before the advent of Judaism and Christianity and no one will have reason to believe that what they do is evil. They want to recreate the pagan days of Greece and Rome. There was no sexual morality then.

The sins of the flesh create slaves easily controlled by the state. The elites, pushing Marxist atheism will be able to control the world. Utopia will exist for only the few, until they face death, when their ugly vision is proven to be false. There can never be utopia on earth because of the nature of man.


5 posted on 12/20/2010 10:52:31 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: truthfinder9

bump


6 posted on 12/20/2010 10:55:45 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: truthfinder9

If find it comforting that none of the twelve Apostles ever renounced Jesus Christ or the fact of his Resurrection.


7 posted on 12/20/2010 10:58:25 AM PST by wordsofearnest (Evan Bayh gave Indiana a twofer.)
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To: truthfinder9

Before I would read any of this...or take any of it seriously...I’ll need a working definition of “God”.


8 posted on 12/20/2010 11:01:59 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (You can roll a turd in powered sugar; that don't make it a jelly donut)
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To: truthfinder9

These are concocted atheists myths. Whats the phrase,,,,,,,,,,,,’straw something or other’. Even this atheist/agnostic/humanist sees this is garbage.

Christianity is fine, Islam,,,,,,,,, not so much.


9 posted on 12/20/2010 11:02:05 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: savagesusie
"..to live outside the law you must be honest...."

Absolutely Sweet Marie

Bob Dylan

10 posted on 12/20/2010 11:02:13 AM PST by de.rm (Bang, bang, . . bang. Shhh=Bush, the elder, E. Howard Hunt, LBJ, Mrs, Edgar Hoover)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Agreed. Goes either ways.


11 posted on 12/20/2010 11:06:01 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: truthfinder9
It doesn't help your cause when the first 5 links appear to be myths about myths.

All I get when I click on the link is The requested document does not exist on this server.

12 posted on 12/20/2010 11:09:49 AM PST by filospinato
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
Except for this one...The Universe Just Happened Without Any Need For a Designer -

That is the core of Athiest belief.

13 posted on 12/20/2010 11:11:55 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: truthfinder9

Ping to self


14 posted on 12/20/2010 11:13:16 AM PST by RainMan
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To: HerrBlucher

Except for this one...The Universe Just Happened Without Any Need For a Designer -
That is the core of Athiest belief.
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Guilty as charged and my bad as I did not read every miniscule entry because they all looked inflammatory in nature.

Now we could get into a discussion/purpose of the universe’s creation but it would be pointless. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh as is the universe. Couldn’t pass that one up :<))))))


15 posted on 12/20/2010 11:19:20 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: truthfinder9

Not all athiest are leftist and not all athiest think religion is bad, however, an athiest gets tired of religious folks, just like homosexuals, pushing their beliefs on people that don’t care to listen to them. Contrary to popular belief, many athiest have high moral standards and compasion towards their fellow human beings.Religion should be taught at home or in your church, not in a public school.All religions are cults to one degree or another, hence the word culture.Those that holler the loudest about their religion being the true way are usually the ones that have a deep conflict about their faith.Faith is just what it says, a belief in something that can never be proven or disproven other than by your belief. If you believe the bible then that is YOUR proof,don’t expect a non believer to accept your idea of the truth.


16 posted on 12/20/2010 11:20:23 AM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: eastforker
All religions are cults to one degree or another, hence the word culture.

All buses are used to one degree or another, hence the word use.

I'd hate to see your take on the etymology of "Schwarzenegger."

17 posted on 12/20/2010 11:25:58 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

If the Universe is pointless then so is life, so is morality, so is the concept of good and evil. If you are ok with that then at least you are an honest Athiest. However, some of the most reknowned Athiests in history have expressed outrage at what they perceived as evil, most notably Carly Marx, Jean Claude van Sartre and even Dickie Dawkins. Silly boys, they want it both ways...oh well.


18 posted on 12/20/2010 11:30:37 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: HerrBlucher

If the Universe is pointless then so is life, so is morality, so is the concept of good and evil.
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Get carried away much??

No,,,, life is fortunate. I thanked my mother countless times. But I suppose ‘intelligent life’ is what you might be referring to and to use a truly pointless phrase we should thank our lucky stars.. God, I can keep this up all day. :<)))


19 posted on 12/20/2010 11:38:05 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yes, there are militant atheists out there who just love to stomp on the nativity scene, take the crucifix off the city seal, and muffle the Christmas choir.

But for each of those there are ten or a hundred atheists like me, who simply find the supernatural to be a closed book to them, and who quietly and inoffensively go their unbelieving ways.

I would not be surprised to find that there are a few of them sitting in the pews at your church.


20 posted on 12/20/2010 11:38:10 AM PST by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Hey dummy, where do you think the word cult comes fromWord Origin & History cult 1617, "worship," also "a particular form of worship," from Fr. culte, from L. cultus "care, cultivation, worship," originally "tended, cultivated," pp. of colere "to till" (see colony). Rare after 17c.; revived mid-19c. with reference to ancient or primitive rituals. Meaning "devotion to a person or thing" is from 1829. Origin: 1400–50; late ME: tilling, place tilled (< AF) < L cultūra. See cult, -ure
21 posted on 12/20/2010 11:40:25 AM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: truthfinder9

God has permitted many of the apologetics links in your post to end up in 404 errors. I think He’s trying to tell you something...


22 posted on 12/20/2010 11:40:33 AM PST by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Another problem is that you can’t have an entity create something without the entity itself being under the realm of time. Without time, eternity and an instant are one and the same, and all that happened and all that will happen, have already happened.

If a said entity has a definite moment when it creates something, then that entity, out of all eternity, underwent something that caused it to create - and that cause puts the entity under the bounds of time.

In other words, who created the creator? If no one, then why did the creator create only at a particular moment out of an infinite sea of time called eternity?


23 posted on 12/20/2010 11:59:35 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

Fortunate for you as you have chosen to see it that way, but still pointless within the Atheist umbrella anyway. Same with Atheist morality. There is no absolute good and evil, only that which individuals choose as good and evil. And so Hitler, Stalin, and Mao just simply made different choices than say Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams, within the Atheist umbrella. If you are ok with that, then, again, at least you are an honest Atheist.

Speaking of Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams, what a kooky idea they had when they declared that “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Kooky at least, under the Atheist umbrella anyway.


24 posted on 12/20/2010 12:00:17 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: eastforker

Agree completely.


25 posted on 12/20/2010 12:00:40 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: truthfinder9
Religion is the Cause of All (Most) of the World's Problems

People are the cause of most of the world's problems. People will do bad things, whether for religious or any other motive. Religion can create conflicts that people choose to solve by horrendous means, see for example the Catholic/Protestant fun in England. However, that doesn't mean anything else wouldn't have sufficed as the excuse for the power struggles.

In fact, atheists have been responsible for most of it within the last 100 years.

Note limiting it to the last 100 years. This is basically the period after religions lost their hold on state power. Bad guys in power like to kill people, it's a basic fact. After religion lost power, it was no longer religious bad guys doing the killing.

26 posted on 12/20/2010 12:03:16 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: HerrBlucher
I'm an atheist who thinks that the Jewish-Christian concept of good and evil has been of great benefit to our society.

Certainly American statesmen who grew up in that tradition have been far better stewards of liberty than have been Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

But personally, I have never experienced even the faintest hint of anything supernatural in my 50+ years.

So even though the Christian religion has been a beneficial thing on balance, I find no indications that it is true.

27 posted on 12/20/2010 12:06:07 PM PST by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: HerrBlucher

Here you are trying to define what an athiest is. That would be like a baptist,catholic,lutheran,morman,protestant,methodist,muslim, hindu bhudist etc, trying to define what a chritian is.You do not know, you can only speculate.Thats like a nonsmoker that has never smoked trying to understand why a smoker won’t quit.


28 posted on 12/20/2010 12:08:06 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: eastforker
Hey dummy

... hence, the word uncultured, lol.

29 posted on 12/20/2010 12:20:25 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: eastforker

Athiests define themselves, they profess a lack of belief in God. After that though, things get more complicated because they have a difficult time accepting the logical consequences of that lack of belief. The fact is, without a personal God who establishes absolute morality, its all simply personal choice.


30 posted on 12/20/2010 12:20:42 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: HerrBlucher

The fact is, without a personal God who establishes absolute morality, its all simply personal choice......................................................................................That might be a better alternative then belonging to a cult!


31 posted on 12/20/2010 12:24:55 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: Notary Sojac

That you believe that Christianity has been beneficial, means you have an idea of what things should be rather than what they are. This is the core of the Christian concept of the Fall of Man. Go with that, expand on it, dig into it. C.S. Lewis’s “Mere Christianity” and “The Problem of Pain” go into great detail on that conflict.


32 posted on 12/20/2010 12:27:17 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Whatsamatter, did the definition of cult and culture upset your balance?


33 posted on 12/20/2010 12:30:48 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: HerrBlucher

Actually, I have read them both. You would probably be surprised to learn how many books of apologetics I have read. Probably more than books by atheists, I think.


34 posted on 12/20/2010 12:37:02 PM PST by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: HerrBlucher
And speaking of C.S. Lewis....

one thing he comes back to again and again in his writing is "what we must answer is not whether Christianity makes you a better person (clearly, sometimes, it does not) but whether or not it is true."

Whether Stalin was or was not a better person than Washington (was Torquemada a better person than the Dalai Lama??) is really not relevant to the question of whether Christianity is true.

35 posted on 12/20/2010 12:42:46 PM PST by Notary Sojac (I've been ionized, but I'm okay now.)
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To: eastforker
"many athiest have high moral standards"

If atheism is true then there is no such thing as "moral standards" because there is no objective basis for morals or "right and wrong". There is only personal preference and social convention, both of which are relative and purely subjective. Without God the normative becomes the personal.

36 posted on 12/20/2010 12:43:57 PM PST by circlecity
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To: eastforker

Your unintentionally hilarious admission that you’re uncultured nearly made me fall out of my chair, if that’s what you mean.


37 posted on 12/20/2010 12:47:41 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: circlecity
You are another one, trying to judge someone by your understanding of the universe. You can not judge someone using subjective beliefs of your faith no more than I can judge you on mine. I could just as easily say that your beliefs are irrational based on a book that I deem to be mythical. That does not mean you are wrong in your beliefs,nor does it mean mine are either
38 posted on 12/20/2010 12:51:32 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: circlecity

f atheism is true then there is no such thing as “moral standards” because there is no objective basis for morals or “right and wrong”. There is only personal preference and social convention, both of which are relative and purely subjective. Without God the normative becomes the personal.
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Me biting my tongue till the blood runs outta the corner of the mouth. This is pure bilge to put it mildly. Its OK till the piousness spills over.

“I am so much ‘gooder’ than thou”. Pleeeeeezzzzzzzzz!!!


39 posted on 12/20/2010 12:55:30 PM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: eastforker
"You are another one, trying to judge someone by your understanding of the universe. You can not judge someone using subjective beliefs of your faith no more than I can judge you on mine. I could just as easily say that your beliefs are irrational based on a book that I deem to be mythical. That does not mean you are wrong in your beliefs,nor does it mean mine are either"

None of that has anything at all to do with my post. I wasn't judging anything or asserting any understanding of the universe. You completely avoid the point I raised. You said atheists can have high moral standards and I pointed out that is impossible if there is no God because objective morals are impossible without a God. I note atheists almost always avoid addressing this point because they can't.

40 posted on 12/20/2010 12:57:11 PM PST by circlecity
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To: RegulatorCountry

To whos standard? Yours?Would it be incorrect to say for instance Greek culture is surrounded by the cult of Greek mythology? Since the cult of Greek mythology influnced Greek culture. Play all the word games you like if you think it makes you feel more cultured.


41 posted on 12/20/2010 12:57:11 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
"Me biting my tongue till the blood runs outta the corner of the mouth. This is pure bilge to put it mildly. Its OK till the piousness spills over."

Then please enlighten me, what is the objective basis for "morals" without God. Nobody has ever been able to answer the question before but maybe you'll be the first. I anxiously await the response.

42 posted on 12/20/2010 12:59:39 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

I pointed out that is impossible if there is no God because objective morals are impossible without a God..........................................................................See, that is your opinion and belief, that does not make it a fact except in your own mind.


43 posted on 12/20/2010 1:00:21 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
“I am so much ‘gooder’ than thou”. Pleeeeeezzzzzzzzz!!!"

You don't even understand the question at issue. Being religious doesn't make anyone any "gooder" than anyone else. It does, however, provide an objective standard to define something as good or bad. Atheism doesn't.

44 posted on 12/20/2010 1:02:31 PM PST by circlecity
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To: eastforker
"See, that is your opinion and belief, that does not make it a fact except in your own mind."

No, by definition "moral" presupposes a normative standard. That's simple logic. It is the exact opposite of "opinion". Now please tell me where this standard comes from if there is no God. Don't dodge the question.

45 posted on 12/20/2010 1:05:23 PM PST by circlecity
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To: eastforker
Oh, so you are part of a cult, then, by your own definition?

Such an interesting person you are.

46 posted on 12/20/2010 1:08:06 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Notary Sojac

Yes, exactly, and conversely, many Atheists are “better” people than professing Christians, but this certainly is no indicator of the lack of truthfulness of Christianity as many anti-Christians are quick to believe. Of course, when we say “better” we have an idea in mind of a certain endpoint that is preferred and that the individuals we are referring to are more (better), or less (worse), in accordance with that endpoint. It is that endpoint that measures goodness over evilness. Hitlers, Stalin’s, and Mao’s “endpoint” obviously measures good and evil on a different standard. And we know for a fact that the propaganda campaigns that lead to the fascist and communist genocides painted the State’s enemies as evil and justly deserving of torture and death.

So what standard are we going to live by? And is that standard simply a personal choice either adopted or invented by the individual, or does it originate with the Origin of everything?


47 posted on 12/20/2010 1:09:19 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: circlecity
We are human beings, we can think and rationalize, we like to treat other as we would like to be treated.We understand loyalty to our partners.We react sometimes violently when there is a threat to our family.Not because of god or gods, but out of love.We can even teach loyalty and love to some animals, where is their god.Is god a requirement to show common decency or respect, no.In your mind, you think it must be taught as a belief, You can believe in goodness without being taught and not everyone needs salvation by beliefs.
48 posted on 12/20/2010 1:21:16 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: HerrBlucher

I guess it could be stated that anyone in the Old Testament that was not a Hebrew was, in gods eye, an enemy of the Hebrew. ............ The standard we live by has changed and evolved over many thousands of years.Islams standard hasn’t changed much in the last 700 hundred or so.Our standards have changed in the last 150 or so. 150 years ago taking a woman or girl to be your wife at the age of 14 was a moraly accepted practice, but not today.On the other hand , 150 years ago women dancing naked on a stage was not an accepted practice in this country, but prostitution was.


49 posted on 12/20/2010 1:37:49 PM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: circlecity

Then please enlighten me, what is the objective basis for “morals” without God. Nobody has ever been able to answer the question before but maybe you’ll be the first. I anxiously await the response.
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With your supposition that there is/must be a God it is obviously impossible to address your question. Later you said that a religion is ‘required’ to set moral standards. That is your ‘belief’, nothing more. Its unfortunate tho that implicitly you must believe that you can live a higher moral life than I. Hmmmmmm ‘unfortunate’ isn’t the right word.


50 posted on 12/20/2010 1:37:55 PM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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