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A Woman And An Angel
http://billrandles.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/the-sign-of-the-swaddling-clothes/ ^ | 12-19-10 | Bill Randles

Posted on 12/20/2010 2:44:21 PM PST by pastorbillrandles

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To: F15Eagle
No offense, but just so to not unintentionally slander the good angelic beings of God, might I suggest you alter that to "The Fallen Angel Satan, in the form of a serpent, approached the woman Eve". Since there are many, amazingly, in everyday life who know very little about the Scripture.

Ahh, but bear in mind; Satan was the smartest, best looking of all of God's created Angels, and, Satan wasn't sentenced to crawl on the ground til after the fall, and, Moses wrote the Book of Genesis about 1500 years after the Creation had taken place...

Could be that Satan appeared to Eve as a Rock Star compared to her farmboy, Adam...

21 posted on 12/21/2010 9:14:01 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: goat granny; pastorbillrandles
I didn't know Paul was in the garden of Eden, so what Paul said is not relevant to this article...

Sounds like a consistent dispensationalist.

22 posted on 12/21/2010 11:16:01 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54

Actually she says she is a Catholic


23 posted on 12/21/2010 1:10:27 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles
Actually she says she is a Catholic

A dispensational catholic? I’ve seen stranger.

24 posted on 12/21/2010 1:17:49 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54

I have no idea, but because of the above, i understand first hand the lack of Bible Knowledge


25 posted on 12/21/2010 1:34:52 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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Sorry wrong again, I said I had instructions before marriage on being a Catholic...that was in 1958...I am not a Catholic any more, I am not a Mormon (been accused of that also), I am not a Jew....I don't even know what a consistent dispensationalist is. Whole lot of no nothings about me going on here and all I was debating is what the good pastor said about his genesis story....

The bible I have read multiple times...the pastor is just plain wrong on his genesis story so I guess he never really read it...don't know what topcat is either, but won't put him in any religious category. I won't put you, pastor in any specific religious sect either....

You never answered my question pastor about why you changed the genesis story from scripture to your opinion...

But then again, those that have read the bible know your error. Those that have not, they should, Thats how you can tell those that deviate from scripture to those that don't...

I will paraphrase this,>> but those that teach what is not in scripture are to be shunned (my phasing) That is the teachings of the New Testament...but unlike your story in genesis, I state I am paraphrasing and not quoting scripture exactly, don't care to look it up just to carry on this debate...Merry Christmas...

PS since you wrote**Actually she says she is a Catholic**, I understand you do make assumptions and have a comprehension problem with what I said...and that is probably why your Genesis story is in error..

27 posted on 12/21/2010 2:12:53 PM PST by goat granny (Great dad's are a blessing to son's but more so to daughters...)
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Satan fell before the creation of the Earth.

Where does the Bible teach that Satan was even created before the earth? God created everything (including angels everything) in the space of six days and all very good. The earth was created on the first day. Your comment does make any sense. There was no sin in God’s creation prior to the Fall. It can be logically deduced therefore that Satan fell with the temptation of Adam and Eve.

28 posted on 12/21/2010 2:38:21 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: pastorbillrandles

I think it was God Himself that tempted Eve in the Garden, in that process making man and woman human, for good and for evil. He says as much in Isaiah 45:7.

As evil ¨evolves¨ however, it´s easy to see how one could develop a scapegoat for it.


31 posted on 12/21/2010 3:04:56 PM PST by onedoug
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To: goat granny

;-D


33 posted on 12/21/2010 3:16:59 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: goat granny

Dear Goat Granny- everything I said in that article is scriptural. I didn’t change the Genesis story, I did answer your question, by citing no less than Paul the Apostle, who called the serpent in Genesis 3 an Angel of light.Paul, the Lord’s apostle would have better grasp of scripture than you or I. I see no profit in this debate when all you want to do is mischaracterize my statements, and insult me. If publically insisting that I twisted the scripture gives you some kind of satisfaction, go ahead, the Lord knows all about both of us. Once again, may God bless and help both of us-


34 posted on 12/21/2010 4:13:34 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: F15Eagle

I do agree, God does tempt any man with evil. Presenting to the couple a limited free choice is what God did for Adam and Eve.


35 posted on 12/21/2010 4:17:37 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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It is written that God may test, not that God tempts...one tempts to lead to evil. One may test to prove your faith..God also says to test him. One of the prophets of old did put God to the test with a sheepskin....but you’ll have to look it up yourself....I don’t do others research..:O)


36 posted on 12/21/2010 5:37:52 PM PST by goat granny (Great dad's are a blessing to son's but more so to daughters...)
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To: F15Eagle
The Book of Job says the sons of God shouted for joy and this is given in the verses referencing the foundation of the world.

The foundation of the world is still the 6 days of creation ala Genesis 1. What is preventing the angels from being created in the very act of praising God for creation?

37 posted on 12/21/2010 5:53:45 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: F15Eagle

Isaiah 45:7.

Certainly no disrespect intended, though I believe that Satan undercuts monotheism.

Can you give any example of Satan outside, or before human existence? Conversely, I think can give several examples for God in existence.

I should say I´m not Christian, but it forms much of my training.

Deuteronomy 6:4


38 posted on 12/21/2010 5:56:45 PM PST by onedoug
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