This is what amazes me.
We’re contending one thing, [mormons claim complete apostasy]. 10 is defending one thing [that’s not what they meant, not one whit of truth left?].
When we offer proof of the mormon claims, 10 turns around and says, “oh really, prove the opposite”.
Really? Christ is a liar?
I tire of these word and spin games.
I’m simply seeking to understand what you meant. If complete apostasy means not one whit of truth left, then there isn’t a complete apostasy.
If instead it simply means that there is no functioning authority discipling, baptizing and teaching ordinances then there was a complete apostasy.
Ordinance being defined as:
1. A rule established by authority; a permanent rule of action. An ordinance may be a law or statute of sovereign power. In this sense it is often used in the Scriptures. Ex. 15. Num. 10. Ezra 3. It may also signify a decree, edict or rescript, and the word has sometimes been applied to the statutes of Parliament, but these are usually called acts or laws. In the United States, it is never applied to the acts of Congress, or of a state legislature.
2. Observance commanded.
3. Appointment.
4. Established rite or ceremony. Heb. 9. In this sense, baptism and the Lord’’s supper are denominated ordinances.
This is in keeping with Matt. 28:19-20.