8 Characteristics of a Counterfeit Christian Church

Mormonism Research Ministry ^ | Eric Johnson

[Colofornian]

From the article: Counterfeit Christian churches often make it a point to cast doubt and suspicion on other churches or denominations, with the leader oftentimes claiming that only his church is true. While many groups hold that the Christian churches do have partial truth, it is taught that full truth has somehow been lost and can now only be found in the "one true church." This may involve utilizing Christian terminology while having a different meaning behind those particular words. An example is the Watchtower Society, also known as the Jehovah's Witnesses. This group, founded by Charles Taze Russell in the 19th century, teaches that those who belong to any church outside of "Jehovah's" church are doomed to annihilation. Only those who belong to the Watchtower organization have a chance to attain "Paradise Earth." This is why Jehovah's Witnesses are adamant in sharing their faith door to door, even attempting to convert those who already attend Christian churches. The Jehovah's Witnesses will often use words that sound reasonable to a nominal Christian (i.e. "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses," "salvation," "Jesus Christ," etc), but they are usually reluctant to tell potential converts that the meanings behind these words are completely different than what has been historically meant.

The Lds church does this, too...
Claims it's the "only true living church on the face of the earth" (Doctrine & Covenants 1:30);
Labels the entire Christian church (Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant) as "apostates" for 1500-1700 years;
Claims 100% of our creeds do not honor God -- labels "ALL" of them as an "abomination" to their god...a word meaning "putrid" [see Joseph Smith History, vv. 18-20 in Lds "scripture" Pearl of Great Price]
Claims ALL professing believers of Christian sects are "corrupt" [same PoGP source]

Top 2010 FR Lds threads on the Question: "Are Mormons Christians?" [And note the 2nd thread listed below...if Mormons are Christian, does that mean Christians are Mormon? Or if Mormons say "no go" to calling fundamentalist (FLDS) Mormons as "Mormon," does that mean only Mormons can draw such boundaries?]

* Are Mormons Christian? Inquiry into the Church of Latter Day Saints, a peculiarly American Religion [353 replies]
* Are Christians Mormon?
* Mormon lifestyles and religious differences [269 replies]
* Is Glenn Beck Saved? (A Short Review of Mormonism)

[mnehring]

Having fun?

[ReverendJames]

Also the worship and veneration of their founder. You have Joseph Smith,Jr. of the Mormons and Charles Taze Russell, founder of the JW’s.

[Fiji Hill]

Shouldn’t that be “authoritarian” rather than “authoritative” leadership? “Authoritative” means reliable and trustworthy.

[InABunkerUnderSF]

So is bad mouthing other people’s religion something you are compelled to do out of some kind of perverse religions bigotry or is driving away members who belong do denominations you don’t like just your way of trying to kill off FR?

[spyone]

Ok, I give up, what denomination are you? Are you filled with the spirit right now?

[NYer]

With the leaders of thousands of different religions and churches attempting to make their beliefs appear authentic, it behooves a person to carefully ascertain truth from error.

If we wish to locate the Church founded by Jesus, we need to locate the one that has the four chief marks or qualities of his Church. The Church we seek must be one, holy, catholic, and apostolic.

Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth

[Paragon Defender]

Seekers of truth,

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There's an anti-Mormon group of people here that spends a great deal of their time attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. They post regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

They have a misguided obsession. You can witness many different tactics employed that you might find quite interesting. The straw man argument is a big favorite and is frequently preceded by cherry-picking quotes or other material. After the "quotation" the attacker will misrepresent what has been said or what was meant and then attack their own interpretation.Later they will have the audacity to claim they were "only" quoting our own material.  

They will of course insist ad nauseum that they are merely using our sources and are therefore innocent of any deceptive practice. LDS persons have no issue whatsoever having our scriptures or leaders quoted as long as it is presented fairly and accurately. This is rarely (if ever) done.

Another favorite is posting scripture or statements which on their own really present no dilemma. They make something out of nothing while never bringing up a single objection that hasn't been addressed a hundred times before.

You might note a couple of other tactics used to try to antagonize is the use of disrespectful or insulting terms or language and/or pictures. That's a Christlike thing to do right? Yeah I don't think so either. It does speak volumes about them though.

Some of them claim being some sort of special witness to you as being supposedly former Mormons. So someone who is an ex-member of any organization would never have an axe to grind or have reason to try to justify their actions by any means? Perhaps not but perhaps so. The LDS Church gains members from other denominations as well as others faiths all the time. This doesn't make them an expert on anything and you certainly won't hear them attacking their forner Church.

Frequently they cruise the headlines of the day seeking any story that might be twisted into making the Church look bad. Anything will do, just watch the progression of posts following it and see what I mean.

After reading their posts, I invite you to seek the truth about whatever "issue" they seem to be "revealing" or "exposing". I promise that if you do so with honest intent, the "ahah" moments you will have will be many and frequent. You will start to recognize the tactics employed to cleverly twist and attack and will likely chuckle the more you see. In actuality, there's nothing new here. It's all been addressed many times before.

The latest twist in the anti-Mormon propaganda machine is to actually go to the links provided, but then they cherry pick what they want, then quote and straw man attack that. Clever. It almost appears that they are helping you, the seeker of truth out by doing some footwork for you. Not so much. Don't be insulted, look for yourself. It's not the haystack they want you to think.

Here's a few links to get your started from a different viewpoint. I have found that the vast majority of the "issues" brought up can be found and addressed at http://www.fairlds.org/ but here's more:

http://scriptures.lds.org/
http://www.lds.org
http://www.fairlds.org/
http://www.mormonapologetics.org/
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page
http://www.lightplanet.com/response/index.html
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDS_Intro.shtml
http://www.answeringantimormons.com/index.htm
http://promormon.blogspot.com/

Now you will likely notice the "you never address or answer our points" posts pop up as usual. All after providing the answers just as you have here.

Sometimes it is claimed that these sites present a needle in a haystack. Far from it. But if you give up before you try you won't know will you? They often state that these sites provide no answer. They just don't want you looking. It is as simple as that.

Will you wear blinders too? Seek truth. Find out for yourself. Want to chat with someone on any topic? A few of these sites provide just that. So do your homework sincere seeker of truth. Listen and read from both "sides". Make up your own mind.

I witness to you of these truths and wish you the best, in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

 

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

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[Colofornian]

Born-from-Above Evangelical...

[dartuser]

So by number 7, Mormonism is false.

[spyone]

Now we’re getting somewhere. What is your view as to the Christianess of the Roman Catholic Church based on your posted criteria?

[greyfoxx39]

Click on the image for relief!

[Colofornian]

So is bad mouthing other people’s religion something you are compelled to do out of some kind of perverse religions bigotry...

Are you bad-mouthing my own, personal religious compulsions?

Therefore, can I see your "bad-mouthing" religious license (if that's what's goin' on here)?

...or is driving away members who belong do denominations you don’t like...

The Lds church proudly says it's not a "branch" off of some larger church "tree." They don't see themselves as one denomination among many. They see themselves as "the only true and living church on the face of the earth" (Lds "scripture" Doctrine & Covenants 1:30)

Besides, do you accuse 52,000 Lds missionaries going door to door of targeting community members they "don't like?"

(Or do only Lds missionaries have some SF Bunker-issued "religious license" to proclaim His Word and the Gospel?)

[DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis]

Thanks! Can I perhaps use that in the future?

[greyfoxx39]

Be my guest. Freepmail me and I will give you the HTML for that and also for the Bear image.

[DarthVader]

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[G Larry]

How unusual!
A Catholic bashing thread on FR!?!?!?!

[teppe]

Colofornian

.....Question ... If you believe that the Nicene Creed which was adopted by the Officials at the Council of Nicea 325AD through inspiration from God ....

....then it makes sense that you should also believe that Church officials should be Celibate ... since that requirement was also passed by the same Officials at the Council of Nicea in 325AD.

So what was it ... the inspired Nicean Officials in 325 got it right on the Creed but wrong on the Celibacy ...Right on both or wrong on both???

If they got it right on the Creed ... doesn’t it make sense that they also got it right on Celibacy? Is your pastor Celibate? If not ... then according to logic ... aren’t you flirting with Heresy?

Just a few thoughts ..... (Before you try to remove the sliver in my eye .... maybe you should remove the beam in your own!)

[Ripliancum]

At least they took Christmas day off. For a few hours, we had peace on earth, good will toward men.