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"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)
Posted on 12/31/2010 9:03:44 PM PST by topcat54
"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)
> This time, the kingdom was taken from them and given to
> the true nation.
You mean the Paleostinians?
That’s who gets the land if Israel is eradicated.
Besides, we still have the prophesies Rev 11-17 to be fulfulled.
The desire to have The Kingdom of God on Earth dies hard even as Jesus called it the Kingdom of the Heavens.
Looks painful, pulling such a large theology from one’s fanny.
Start with Zech. 14, then Ezek. 36-48. There are too many references to the land, places, boundaries, the temple, the city, nations, specifically named nations, and physical blessings for the nation of Israel.
Reformed theology has done the Christian world much good. Reformed eschatology, on the other hand, is brownies and dog poo in a blender.
“Mystery Babylon” is the revived Roman empire (EU) with which the catholic church will be part of in the future.
To say that it is Jerusalem risible.
To say that God has cast off the Jews (Jerusalem) goes against what is in the old and new testament. The Jews will be “grafted in” again at the beginning of the millenial kingdom.
Anyone who believes that God has made Himself a liar by breaking His promise to Abraham is deceived.
Rome was defeated and re-defeated several times and is now falling apart again (globalism). Just let it go. ;-)
uhmm...the Kingdom of Israel was divided into two houses, the House of Judah and the House of Israel. In Hosea, we are told Yahweh divorced the House of Israel but never are we told He divorced the House of Judah. These are the Jewish people today, the House of Judah.
History doesn’t shine a good light on your Biblical opinion.
> To be anti-Semitic is to be anti-G-d.
Amen.
Genesis 12:3
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse
him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Revelation 7:1-8 hasn’t happened yet.
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
The other point about the Temple is that there is no prophecy for Herod’s temple to be rebuilt. Jesus said it would be destroyed and there is no prophecy where it is rebuilt.
The End-Times guys say that the prophecy about rebuilding that Temple is really a ‘double-reference’ prophecy from the Old Testament. And that is just hogwash. There are no prophecies in the history of Scripture that are intended to be multi-referenced. To have a multi-reference prophecy makes prophecy meaningless.
“The Jews will be “grafted in” again at the beginning of the millenial kingdom.”
How many Jews keep the law? Where’s the burned animal sacrifices today?
Context? I believe Jesus ,that Rabbi from Nazareth was teaching in the Temple and the Priests and Elders came to Him there- Verse 43 is understood in light of that context—and I believe refers to Isaiah 66:7-14. But as The apostle Paul taught the believers at Rome (11:) God hath not put away His people.(see v.1) and ‘If the first fruits be holy,the lump is also holy: if the root be holy ,so are the branches...(see v16 and c.) I cannot believe replacement theology in the notion that God has cast aside His chosen people.
Think biblically. “Kingdom” and “nation” do not equate to some dusty parcel of land.
Besides, we still have the prophesies Rev 11-17 to be fulfulled.
We do? Who told you that?
That's theory's been around since Hal Lindsey was still on his second wife and it make no more sense today than it did 40 years ago.
God has not cast off the Jewish people. Paul makes that quite clear in the book of Romans. They are being brought into the kingdom every day by faith in Jesus Christ, the faith of their father Abraham. These elect Jews along with their gentile brethren make up the true children of Abraham.
The NT makes clear the different between earthly Jerusalem and the heavenly Jerusalem.
for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children-- but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. (Gal. 4)
None of those who believe in a so-called “replacement theology” teach that God has cast aside Jewish people. You are mistaken if you think otherwise.
Amen.
My G-d KEEPS His promises.
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