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From Pastor to Parishioner: My Love for Christ Led Me Home
catholic.com ^ | Drake McCalister

Posted on 01/04/2011 4:22:02 AM PST by NYer

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To: Cronos

Awesome!


81 posted on 01/04/2011 9:35:30 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: TSgt

Ever mass, which are celebrated on every day of the week, contains one old and new testament section along with a gospel reading. Yes, there may be many Catholics who have not fulfilled their obligations to constantly seek the truth, but as you will note on this post an many others there are many Catholics that do read and understand much of the bible.
As for 20% / 80% you might be surprised at how far off that is, but until you research it on your own all you will have is just a guess.
A great place to start is with some Catholic Apologetic info, which will give much of the biblical and Apocalyptic church teachings, which is the rock(Peter) the church is built on.


82 posted on 01/04/2011 9:37:19 AM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
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To: EAGLE7
yes, and this is what a leading communist general in 1920 thought
Mikhail Nikolaievich Tukhachevsky was incarcerated in the high-security fortress of Ingolstadt. There he befriended a number of French fellow prisoners, whome he drove to the depths of melancholy by playing mournful pieces on his violin and shocked with his provocative pronouncements: after a lengthy discussion on literature, he would declare that all books should be burnt so that the soul of man could be truly liberated. One day a French captain found him building a grotesque cardbord monster holding a bomb, which he explained was the God of War and Destruction, Pierun. 'We will enter into the state of Chaos, and will only emerge from it with the total ruin of civilisation,' Tukhachevsky solemnly told the astonished Frenchman as he prostrated himself before it.

His nihilism had an unpleasant tinge to it. 'The Jews brought us Christianity, and that is reason enough to loathe them,' he lectured on another occasion. 'And anyway, they belong to a low race."
communists hate Christianity, they hate The Church. Communism fell when Pope John Paul II came and told the Poles in the center of Warsaw that Poland lives for Christ, is defined by Christ. Communism crumbled after that -- first the Solidarity got control in 1985, then the berlin wall collapsed in 1989, then the USSR in 1991. Communists hate the Church for this
83 posted on 01/04/2011 9:41:25 AM PST by Cronos (Kto jestem? Nie wiem! Ale moj Bog wie!)
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To: NYer

**But my desire was to follow Christ, so I resigned my pastorate in August 2004. Once again my wife and I and three girls were without an income, with three months’ worth of money to live on and full of faith that God would provide. And he has.**

Welcome home, Drake and Crystal and family.


84 posted on 01/04/2011 9:41:43 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mad Dawg; Al Hitan; TSgt

No, what is awesome is that even after refuting Ts’ no scripture claim, he still belabours that dead point


85 posted on 01/04/2011 9:43:13 AM PST by Cronos (Kto jestem? Nie wiem! Ale moj Bog wie!)
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To: kingpins10

You are always a Catholic. You were baptized in a Catholic Church, right? Then you are still marked with that Catholic Baptism.


86 posted on 01/04/2011 9:43:13 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt

How was it proved that it is “empty”? I didn’t see any proof of that.


87 posted on 01/04/2011 9:49:16 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: stuartcr

“How could being a certain religion make one’s stomach turn? I just don’t understand the apparent animosity that I see between people of different faiths.”

Its called insecurity in ones own self.


88 posted on 01/04/2011 9:49:57 AM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

But it is in the Bible

People stood to pray — Catholics stand for the three Presidential prayers (presider prayers) for the Lord’s Prayer and for the Gospel.

People in those times sat to learn — Christ had them all sit down at the Sermon on the Mount — So we sit during the First Readigs, Psalm and Second Reading.

Kneeling is a sign of reverence — so we kneel during the Liturgy of the Eucharist.

It is in the Bible!


89 posted on 01/04/2011 9:50:31 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: kalee

Guilty. I don’t go out of my way to bash the pepsicola church. I got a lot in that environment. But I am pretty angry at it.


90 posted on 01/04/2011 9:50:31 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: jafojeffsurf

Thanks. That’s just something that I really don’t understand.


91 posted on 01/04/2011 9:57:45 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Mad Dawg

It is a scripted ritual.

I’ve witnessed it, most who partake go through the motions.

Like I said, this is my life experience. That said, I’ve seen folks in evangelical/protestant churches go through the motions however it is more common with a scripted service.


92 posted on 01/04/2011 9:58:38 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Big pictures are in the eye of the beholder.


93 posted on 01/04/2011 10:01:06 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: r9etb

If God doesn’t do things the way we expect Him to do them, then why does it matter what we believe? Perhaps He made people of different faiths for His own, very good reasons. Perhaps He is capable of having people honor Him, in many different ways?


94 posted on 01/04/2011 10:04:33 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Salvation

**People in those times sat to learn — Christ had them all sit down at the Sermon on the Mount — So we sit during the First Readigs, Psalm and Second Reading.

Oops.....I forgot the homily.


95 posted on 01/04/2011 10:04:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt

Nevertheless, it’s from the Bible — don’t you agree?


96 posted on 01/04/2011 10:05:34 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt; EAGLE7; kingpins10; SENTINEL
I know of few Catholics who read their bible let alone carry one to church.

Why would a catholic need to bring a bible to church when the liturgy is taken from the bible. Dr. Scott Hahn encountered this on his first visit to a catholic mass. (emphasis mine)

The second thing that happened was when I quietly slipped into the basement chapel down at Marquette, Gesu. They were having a noon Mass and I had never gone to Mass before. I slipped in. I sat down in the back pew. I didn't kneel. I didn't genuflect, I wouldn't stand. I was an observer; I was there to watch. But I was surprised when 40, 50, 60, 80, or 100 ordinary folk just walked in off the street for midday Mass, ordinary folk who just came in, genuflected, knelt and prayed. Then a bell rang and they all stood up and Mass began. I had never seen it before.

The Liturgy of the Word was so rich, not only the Scripture readings. They read more Scripture, I thought, in a weekday Mass than we read in a Sunday service. But their prayers were soaked with Biblical language and phrases from Isaiah and Ezekiel. I sat there saying, "Man, stop the show, let me explain your prayers. That's Zechariah; that's Ezekiel. Wow! It's like the Bible coming to life and dancing out on the center stage and saying, "This is where I belong."

The Scott Hahn Conversion Story

Catholics should devote more time to reading scripture and priests encourage them to do so. Catholics are surrounded by scripture at Mass and in their daily prayers; for some, that is sufficient.

97 posted on 01/04/2011 10:06:09 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Salvation; TSgt; Mad Dawg
good point, Salvation.

Tsgt, here's more proof that what we do is quite biblical
People stood to pray — Catholics stand for the three Presidential prayers (presider prayers) for the Lord’s Prayer and for the Gospel.

People in those times sat to learn — Christ had them all sit down at the Sermon on the Mount — So we sit during the First Readigs, Psalm and Second Reading.

Kneeling is a sign of reverence — so we kneel during the Liturgy of the Eucharist.

It is in the Bible!
Now I don't see anywhere in the Bible where it says the people came in each holding leather bound books and shuffled between pages while the rabbi or high priest was preaching. Where is THAT in the Bible?
98 posted on 01/04/2011 10:15:04 AM PST by Cronos (Kto jestem? Nie wiem! Ale moj Bog wie!)
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To: katana
There are some parts of Roman Catholic dogma, including the infallibility of the Bishop of Rome, which would keep me, in good conscience, from becoming a Roman Catholic.

What is your understanding of papal infallibility?

99 posted on 01/04/2011 10:15:37 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: TSgt

***It’s simply not biblical.***

With respect, I have to tell you that if they’d had copyright laws during the time of Christ, the Catholic church would OWN the bible. After all, it was HIS apostles who wrote the New Testament.


100 posted on 01/04/2011 10:17:53 AM PST by kitkat ( Obama: Hype and Chains.)
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