Tower of Babel’s Ruins Waiting for Archaeologists (Dispensational Caucus)

I have read quite a bit about Göbekli Tepe. I hope to visit there someday. Here is a speculation / conjecture I have. There has been a lot of reporting the last ten plus years on the Black Sea and Persian Gulf flooding. Lake Agassiz has also been in the recent news. I have thought for a while that maybe the Black Sea and the Persian Gulf flooded at the same time when Lake Agassiz’ glacial dam broke. Their dating is close and the reason for both flooding is the same, rising oceanic levels. The more conventional interpretation that the Persian Gulf flooding took hundreds of years is now being reevaluated. It may be that both took place together.

Thanks for the note on that. Something to watch for as dates are made more certain. At the same time we have to remember that gravity controls sea level in any particular place so you could have a big slosh in the North Atlantic and yet there'd be no change in that region, but maybe a big change in the vicinity of the South Pacific.

It's not the case that there's a gradual change everywhere.

Again, the end of the last period of maximum glaciation took place in fits and starts with a multiplicity of floods, tsunamis that affected coastal regions, and such serious devastation of whatever had gone on before that we know little of that period of time.

Here's a thought ~ we know that mankind's most natural environment is the delta region of any large river. There he may find plentiful game and extensive flat fields of growing plants of all sorts. When ocean levels rise, these deltas are flooded and lost. Mankind must move "uphill" and wait generations for yet more savannah to appear as silt laden soils flow toward the ocean and drop their load.

When ocean levels fall, the old savannahs are revealed, but they are immediately ripped to pieces by fresh water flowing off the land. It takes generations more for siltation to repair the injury and once again provide Mankind with his most suitible habitat.

Until our modern times the world has never seen such a huge mass of human beings. For those who understand Ice Age mechanics it would be easy to see that we are on the very precipice of more destruction of more people than has ever happened in all of human history on this planet. Some will be washed away. Some will starve. Some will die of intense cold. Others will die because there's nowhere for them to go.

We have among our number those who'd like to bring back the cold. Others would prefer that we continue to try to warm our world.

There's reason to believe that the entire makeup of the pre-flood system was substantially different from what we see now. Simplest way to view it is looking at the axis tilts of our present system:

Axial tilts of our system from Wikipedia...

Axial tilt of major celestial bodies

Object	Axial tilt (°)	Axial tilt (radians)
Mercury	~0.01	0.00
Venus	177.4	3.10
Earth	23.44	0.41
Moon	6.688	0.03
Mars	25.19	0.44
Ceres	~4	0.07
Pallas	~60	~1
Jupiter	3.13	0.06
Saturn	26.73	0.47
Uranus	97.77	1.71
Neptune	28.32	0.49
Pluto	119.61	2.09
Makemake
Haumea
Eris

The problem from the perspective of uniformitarian astronomers is obvious enough. If our system had formed up from a swirling disk of solar material as claimed, all axial tilts should be approximately the same.

What the data appears to be saying is that the sun somehow or other captured most of the other bodies and did not originate with them...

In fact, another way to interpret the data would be to claim that the sun, Jupiter, and Mercury with tilts less than ten might have been an original system; That Uranus and Pluto with their odd tilts were probably captured separately, but that the three bodies I have in red i.e. Earth, Mars, Saturn, and Neptune with their tilts of approximately 25 degrees constituted some sort of an elder system which the sun captured at some point.

I mean, if you were looking for a root cause for the catastrophes you read about in ancient literature, that would do for starters....

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