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To: Natural Law; Zionist Conspirator
And "hocus pocus" has been alleged to be a corruption of "hoc est enim corpus meum,..." which is translated as "for this is my body.". During the words of institution, among which those words appear, we believe God to work a change in "substance".

This is not only not a natural change but a change irrelevant to the subject of the natural sciences. Science can deal with a gold annulus but cannot say whether it is merely a ring or a wedding ring. Science can describe sexual intercourse but cannot determine whether it is sacred or profane, virtuous or vicious.

56 posted on 01/09/2011 4:16:04 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
This is not only not a natural change but a change irrelevant to the subject of the natural sciences. Science can deal with a gold annulus but cannot say whether it is merely a ring or a wedding ring. Science can describe sexual intercourse but cannot determine whether it is sacred or profane, virtuous or vicious.

What you obviously refuse to consider is that the process of the creation of physical reality (along with all its natural laws and processes) is by the very nature of things every bit as outside the purview of science as is your transubstantiation.

The only reason for rejecting one and accepting the other is sociological: you don't wish to be associated with "those people."

61 posted on 01/09/2011 4:43:39 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Ashirah leHaShem ki-ga'oh ga'ah, sus verokhevo ramah vayam!)
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