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1 posted on 01/11/2011 3:39:20 AM PST by markomalley
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2 posted on 01/11/2011 4:20:18 AM PST by Sam's Army
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Long before the Bible ever existed there was the Church. The Church is the pillar land foundation of truth (2 Tim. 3:15).

HUH??

A pillar is only good for one thing..that is to hold something up

What is a foundation ? It is something that is built upon

What is truth ?

Jesus praying for those that are His said this Jhn 17:17 — Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

The church of Jesus Christ is to be built on His word, and it is to uphold His word

That fact points away from the Catholic church not to it

3 posted on 01/11/2011 4:32:31 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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Pro-Roman Catholic historical revisionism ...


7 posted on 01/11/2011 5:01:14 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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8 posted on 01/11/2011 5:46:35 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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This piece presents the standard “Catholics assembled the Bible” story, which has built into it the logical fallacy that I believe logicians call “begging the question.” This doesn’t mean “asking for a question,” but rather assuming one’s conclusion as a premise.

The individual “Catholics” who assembled the Bible were not the Roman Catholics of today. Those folks weren’t alive then. Further, in the time that the Bible was assembled, there were no Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, or other such denominations who boycotted or opposed the proceedings. The Church had no such divisions then (though I’m sure there were others, which are irrelevant here).

The collected Christians assembled the Bible. Much later, the Church divided into the denominations we know today. To non-Roman-Catholics (and I’ll stress that I am not an anti-Catholic by any means), it was the “Holy” Roman Catholic Church of that era that left the beliefs taught by the Bible and descended into paganism, fornication, carnality, idolatry, and other evils that separated that organization from Christ. (Personally, I believe that if that happened it was only temporarily.)

So today we have a slew of denominations, with the Catholics using the thin gruel of “apostolic succession” to claim that they are the ecclesiastical descendants of those who created the Bible, despite the legions and generations of non-Christian priests the world has endured and through which “apostolic succession” has supposedly passed. Sorry, Catholics, but we Christians (undenominated) make the same claim, i.e., that we are the “true” spiritual descendants of the Christians who assembled the Bible. That claim does not belong to a particular Earthly organization that perpetuates an earlier organization, with all the same dress, titles, rituals, and trappings of the earlier one.

I make this argument so aggressively because modern Catholics keep trying to sell this “we created the Bible” silliness, attempting to raise their Church above other Christian churches. I actually respect and admire modern Catholics, but don’t appreciate the holier-than-thou nonsense about the Bible. You start off by assuming that you are the true descendants of those who assembled the Bible, and that’s the problem with your reasoning that the rest of us Christians don’t accept.


9 posted on 01/11/2011 6:48:52 AM PST by S. Ruger ("Catholics assembled Bible" is nonsense)
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Thank you for posting this - very educational read.


13 posted on 01/11/2011 8:21:42 AM PST by RabidBartender
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The Apocrypha — a term coined not by Luther but by Jerome in the 5th century — is not Scripture. Jerome was opposed to including it in the Latin Vulgate. By saying that Luther made up that term, you lie.

Josephus as well rejected the apocryphal books as inspired; his writings reflected Jewish thought at the time of Jesus.

The Apocrypha wasn’t included at first in the Septuagint. It was ultimately included in the Septuagint for historical reasons, in a different category from inspired Scripture.

While New Testament writers quoted hundreds of times from books of the Old Testament, they *never* quoted from the Apocrypha. The Apocrypha has never been considered part of the canonical Jewish Scriptures.

The truth is that the canon of the New Testament was set from the first century. Roman Catholics did not “give us the Bible.”


18 posted on 01/11/2011 8:56:47 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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Where does this whole doctrine of Purgatory come in? Now the Church had been teaching the doctrine of Purgatory for 2000 years. But let me tell you folks it was believed thousands of years before Christ

Baal was believed in thousands of years before Christ too...doesn't make the belief true.

Could have been an interesting article if it wasn't for so much catholic revisionist propoganda. Too bad.

21 posted on 01/11/2011 10:17:47 AM PST by what's up
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If not for the Catholic Church, the Bible would not exist.


24 posted on 01/11/2011 1:51:32 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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