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1 posted on 01/11/2011 12:47:24 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow; BenKenobi

Ping!


2 posted on 01/11/2011 12:48:33 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow; verga
Paul warned us about those introducing false teachings, "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." (2 Tim. 4:3–4).

The protestant “reformation” is simply not Biblical:

“I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ." Is Christ divided? 1Cor 1:10-14

You could easily read the above as “One of you says, "I follow Luther"; another, "I follow Calvin"; another, "I follow Wesley"; still another, "I follow Christ."

Christians cannot be “perfectly united in mind and thought” when they have different beliefs on, say, the necessity of water baptism, while others believe “This is my Body” means “This is a cookie”

We know from Scripture that the basic premise of “Protestantism” cannot be true:

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Mat 28:18-20

Fortunately, we have Christ’s promise that heresies will never prevail against the Church. They will arise, endure sometimes for centuries, like Protestantism, but we can be confident in Christ’s promise that the Church He established will always teach the Truth.

3 posted on 01/11/2011 1:09:55 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: marshmallow

I believe 1,783 angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Your view?

I should specify that this a metric pin; english pins may differ.


7 posted on 01/11/2011 1:39:34 PM PST by saltus (God's Will be done)
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To: marshmallow

The fact remains, that if even one person was executed or tortured by a church claiming to hold the sole legacy of Christ, that it lost whatever claim to the title it ever may have had. Jesus didnt murder.


11 posted on 01/11/2011 2:02:48 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: marshmallow

modern christianity, whether catholic, protestant or orthodox is doing pretty well in my estimation, all are legitimate paths to god. but please don’t try to pretend that the catholic church back then was a proper representative of christ,,

and most important ways the same is true for protestants of that era. There weren’t any catholics in salem running the show.


22 posted on 01/11/2011 2:32:44 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: marshmallow
The Jesuits won back many territories, especially in Eastern Europe, ...

I hope the author includes the Jesuit's tortures, lies and the threats of eternal damnation through excommunication to the superstitious peasants. That did help win back many territories.

26 posted on 01/11/2011 4:12:41 PM PST by HarleyD
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