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To: Cronos

The righteous believer will not only consider these Scriptures, but the more obvious Gospel directing belief/faith as the singular mechanism for eternal life.


3,347 posted on 02/07/2011 9:05:08 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
The righteous believer will not only consider these Scriptures, but the more obvious Gospel directing belief/faith as the singular mechanism for eternal life.

Are you saying that scripture is not sufficient?
3,349 posted on 02/08/2011 1:42:14 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cvengr
Remember also that it is CLEAR in Ezekiel
12 “Therefore, son of man, say to your people, ‘If someone who is righteous disobeys, that person’s former righteousness will count for nothing. And if someone who is wicked repents, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation. The righteous person who sins will not be allowed to live even though they were formerly righteous.’

13 If I tell a righteous person that they will surely live, but then they trust in their righteousness and do evil, none of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered; they will die for the evil they have done.

14 And if I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ but they then turn away from their sin and do what is just and right— 15 if they give back what they took in pledge for a loan, return what they have stolen, follow the decrees that give life, and do no evil—that person will surely live; they will not die.

16 None of the sins that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will surely live.

The parts in bold disprove any sense that we cannot lose our freely given salvation.

Right from the start of the Bible, do we find Adam and Eve losing grace.

Remember Paul says "See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22)
3,350 posted on 02/08/2011 1:44:43 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cvengr; xone
Finally, note in the Gospels itself that Jesus says in John 15:2
He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit
and John 15:6
If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
and John 15:10:
If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love,

note -- IF you keep, you WILL REMAIN, otherwise...

And Revelations 22:19 God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.
3,351 posted on 02/08/2011 1:50:42 AM PST by Cronos
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