Posted on 01/19/2011 6:33:49 AM PST by Colofornian
Gilbert, Ariz. • By Tuesday, 5,000 residents who live close to the site of the new Mormon temple in this Phoenix suburb will receive a DVD disputing tenets of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
As part of the mass mailing that will cost more than $10,000, a group called Concerned Christians is mailing the DVD to an additional 5,000 homes in Show Low, Ariz. The town of about 11,000 is 30 miles from Snowflake, Ariz., site of another Mormon temple.
Mormonism contends the Bible has been “corrupted over time,” said Andy Poland, general manager of the group.
“The DVD explains evidence from the Bible that we’ve not lost the original writings of the apostles and the prophets and that they have been preserved over time,” he said. The DVD, titled “The Bible vs. Joseph Smith,” was made in Jerusalem and is one hour and 20 minutes long.
Poland, a former Mormon from Apache Junction, Ariz., said he found faith in the Bible after leaving the LDS Church. He said Mormonism teaches that “perfection was required before forgiveness could be obtained” and that, as a result, he suffered from depression and suicidal thoughts.
“We have not seen the DVD, but it appears it does not accurately reflect the doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” said Cindy Packard, a local spokeswoman for the LDS church.
The Concerned Christians group claims it has 9,000 supporters nationwide.
Good! It’s time that the real Church of Jesus Christ in America got back into fighting shape.
If she hasn't seen it, how can she say that?
The hat and seer stone.
If she hasn't seen it, how can she say that?
It has never stopped Paragon Defender who is bound to show up in a little bit.
My thoughts exactly.
Typical knee jerk reaction to anything that criticizes ‘the Church’, “it must be wrong”.
I have seen the video, and it is well done and accurate. I am all for these campaigns as a similar one (through UTLM) that placed newsletters about a current event (the temple changes) on the doorstep of our neighborhood in Provo/Orem, was instrumental in my seeing the truth.
Thanks for the reminder.
IB4PDS!
He said Mormonism teaches that “perfection was required before forgiveness could be obtained”
That’s not LDS doctrine.
Well, all she has to do is wait a bit, the doctrines change from year to year like the New England Weather.
I wonder if anyone is going to send DVD's to the people that live around mosques that are being built? This "appears" to be an act of a disgruntled ex-mormon rather than an act of concern for others.....
IB4PDS
My thought exactly. I hope the producers of the dvd have done an honest and thorough job at presenting the LdS church doctrines so that the message can’t be logically or rationally dismissed as mere “anti-mormon propaganda”.
He said Mormonism teaches that “perfection was required before forgiveness could be obtained”
That’s not LDS doctrine.
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But it IS. It is exactly what the LDS prophet Spencer W. Kimball taught in his book “The Miracle of Forgiveness”.
Or was the Prophet NOT teaching LDS doctrine?
Here are some quotes:
# “Repentance is inseparable from time. No one can repent on the cross, nor in prison, nor in custody. One must have the opportunity of committing wrong in order to be really repentant. The man in handcuffs, the prisoner in the penitentiary, the man as he drowns, or as he dies-—such a man certainly cannot repent totally. He can wish to do it, he may intend to change his life, he may determine that he will, but that is only the beginning. That is why we should not wait for the life beyond but should abandon evil habits and weaknesses while in the flesh on the earth... Clearly it is difficult to repent in the spirit world of sins involving physical habits and actions. There one has spirit and mind but not the physical power to overcome a physical habit” (p. 83).
# “True repentance is not only sorrow for sins, and humble penitence and contrition before God, but it involves the necessity of turning away from them, a discontinuance of all evil practices and deeds, a thorough reformation of life, a vital change from evil to good, from vice to virtue, from darkness to light.” (p. 149)
# “There is one crucial test of repentance. This is abandonment of the sin. Desire is not sufficient. In other words, it is not real repentance until one has abandoned the error of his ways and started on a new path… the saving power does not extend to him who merely wants to change his life. Trying is not sufficient.” (p. 163)
# “That is why we should not wait for the life beyond but should abandon evil habits and weaknesses while in the flesh on the earth. Elder Melvin J. Ballard pinpointed this problem: A man may receive the priesthood and all its privileges and blessings, but until he learns to overcome the flesh, his temper, his tongue, his disposition to indulge in the things God has forbidden, he cannot come into the celestial kingdom of God-he must overcome either in this life or in the life to come. But this life is the time in which men are to repent. Do not let any of us imagine that we can go down to the grave not having overcome the corruptions of the flesh and then lose in the grave all our sins and evil tendencies. They will be with us. They will be with the spirit when separated from the body. Clearly it is difficult to repent in the spirit world of sins involving physical habits and actions. There one has spirit and mind but not the physical power to overcome a physical habit. He can desire to change his life, but how can he overcome the lusts of the flesh unless he has flesh to control and transform? How can he overcome the tobacco or the drink habit in the spirit world where there is no liquor nor tobacco and no flesh to crave it? Similarly with other sins involving lack of control over the body.” (p. 163)
# “Perhaps one reason murder is so heinous is that man cannot restore life. Man’s mortal life is given him in which to repent and prepare himself for eternity, and should one of his fellowmen terminate his life and thus limit his progress by making his repentance impossible it is a ghastly deed, a tremendous responsibility for which the murderer may not be able to atone in his lifetime” (p. 188)
# “Repentance must involve an all-out, total surrender to the program of the Lord. That transgressor is not fully repentant who neglects his tithing, misses his meetings, breaks the Sabbath, fails in his family prayers, does not sustain the authorities of the Church, breaks the Word of Wisdom, does not love the Lord nor his fellowmen. A reforming adulterer who drinks or curses is not repentant. The repenting burglar who has sex play is not ready for forgiveness. God cannot forgive unless the transgressor shows a true repentance which spreads to all areas of his life.” (p. 203)[4]
# “One of the most fallacious doctrines originated by Satan and propounded by man is that man is saved alone by the grace of God; that belief in Jesus Christ alone is all that is needed for salvation.” (pp. 206-207)
# “Eternal life hangs in the balance awaiting the works of men. This process toward eternal life is a matter of achieving perfection. Living all the commandments guarantees total forgiveness of sins and assures one of exaltation through the perfection which comes by complying with the formula the Lord gave us... Being perfect means to triumph over sin. This is a mandate from the Lord. He is just and wise and kind. He would never require anything from his children which was not for their benefit and which was not attainable. Perfection therefore is an achievable goal. ... Christ became perfect through overcoming. Only as we overcome shall we become perfect and move toward godhood. As I have indicated previously, the time to do this is now, in mortality.” (p. 208-209)
# “In the context of the spirit of forgiveness, one good brother asked me, “Yes, that is what ought to be done, but how do you do it? Doesn’t that take a superman?’ ‘Yes,’ I said, ‘but we are commanded to be supermen. Said the Lord, ‘Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.’ (Matt. 5:48.) We are gods in embryo, and the Lord demands perfection of us.’” (p. 286)
One more:
“Your Heavenly Father has promised forgiveness upon total repentance and meeting all the requirements, but that forgiveness is not granted merely for the asking. There must be works—many works—and an all-out, total surrender, with a great humility and ‘a broken heart and a contrite spirit.’ It depends upon you whether or not you are forgiven, and when. It could he weeks, it could he years, it could be centuries before that happy day when you have the positive assurance that the Lord has forgiven you. That depends on your humility your sincerity, your works, your attitudes” (pp. 324-325).
Actually it is more of a ex-mormon who found the truth of Christ and wants others to see as well.
Unless you have been there, you really cannot understand.
The burning bosom transcends media and format...
IB4PDS
And a total idiot to boot.
Speaking authoritatively on something which she self-admittedly knows nothing about?
She missed her calling....She's cut out for politics.
Yeah. Makes you want to say “Really? Grow up”.
I’ve seen it too and have several copies. Very well done and compelling.
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