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5,000 anti-LDS DVD sent to town in Arizona
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | Jan. 14, 2011 | SRIANTHI PERERA

Posted on 01/19/2011 6:33:49 AM PST by Colofornian

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To: Paragon Defender
I particularly like this statement:

More recently, some Book of Mormon critics have argued that DNA testing of Native Americans has “proved” that they have a genetic code which shows they came from Southeast Asia and not from the Middle East where Book of Mormon peoples (People of Lehi) were located before coming to the New World. However, these critics are not sufficiently well versed in population genetics. If they were they would realize that present DNA testing is not capable of either proving or disproving Nephite/Lamanite origins as based on current Native American populations.

So my spin, other scientists are to stupid to understand DNA and besides you can't disprove the BoM.

61 posted on 01/19/2011 10:17:51 AM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: Paragon Defender

How come John Gee isn’t listed as a “mormon scholar” on that page?

Don’t you find it the least bit curious that a person the church and its members hold in high regard due to his persistent efforts to substantiate the papyri used in the Book of Abraham isn’t used as a “testimony”?

Maybe Professor Ritner has some clues...?


62 posted on 01/19/2011 10:57:01 AM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: MHGinTN; Paragon Defender
From the article: “We have not seen the DVD, but it appears it does not accurately reflect the doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” said Cindy Packard, a local spokeswoman for the LDS church.

Making an assertion without viewing the data is deceit, plain and simple. We see that same dishonesty daily at FR from the Mormonism apologists working this website.

Yup.

Standard Mormon church PR line.
Standard LDS FREEPER apologist PR line.
Chips off of the old block.
As you said, how many times have we heard certain Lds FREEPER assertions minus even one second of reviewing the data...

...is deceit, plain and simple.

Agreed!

63 posted on 01/19/2011 11:28:24 AM PST by Colofornian ( Life isn't FAIR!)
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To: Colofornian
Poland, a former Mormon from Apache Junction, Ariz., said he found faith in the Bible after leaving the LDS Church. He said Mormonism teaches that “perfection was required before forgiveness could be obtained” and that, as a result, he suffered from depression and suicidal thoughts.

I notice as soon as you mention the faults of mormonism, the mormons defenses start to rise and they don't want to listen to the truth. But I think if they were to hear the message that Jesus offers his salvation freely, he loves you no matter what, no works required to be saved, in a positive and loving way, they may listen. That's why I like watching Charles Stanley. He's just calming when he speaks and I love the way he talks about having a relationship with Christ.

64 posted on 01/19/2011 11:34:16 AM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Godzilla

When are you going to debunk something? Still waiting..... and waiting..... How about you use some of that energy to learn something? Nah... that wouldn’t fit your agenda huh?


65 posted on 01/19/2011 11:37:38 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender
Paragon Defender,

How do you interpret the following passage from the bible?

Gal 1:6-9

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

66 posted on 01/19/2011 11:39:02 AM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Elsie

A new link?


No I have posted it before and posted threads from it several times. Just showing one of your gang members that they have no point.


67 posted on 01/19/2011 11:47:47 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender

THX 1138


68 posted on 01/19/2011 11:57:04 AM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: svcw
Real Scientist: “There is no definitive archaeological evidence found in our current diggings to support the BOM cultures”

Mormon Scholar: “Obviously you are not looking hard enough, perhaps you should dig deeper.”

Real Scientist: “We struck magma...”

Mormon Scholar: “Ah! Well then the artifacts burned up, so we know they were there because of the burning in our bosom...”

Real Scientist: “Um, there is lava on your jacket...”

69 posted on 01/19/2011 11:58:20 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: dragonblustar

Not playing your silly game. Look it up.


70 posted on 01/19/2011 11:58:56 AM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: Paragon Defender

Since you evidence that you haven’t even read through your own link spam, how would you know if Godzilla has refuted one or more of the blasphemies in Mormonism?


71 posted on 01/19/2011 11:59:05 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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A little child reveals PD methodology.
72 posted on 01/19/2011 12:09:49 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: ejonesie22

HAHAHA


73 posted on 01/19/2011 12:11:46 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: dragonblustar; Paragon Defender

There are people who don’t know and there are people who don’t know they don’t know and dragon I am not talking about you.


74 posted on 01/19/2011 12:13:23 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: MHGinTN; Paragon Defender
Wait a minute, are you saying M that PD has said he has not read all of his links provided? Well, if that's the case it certainly explains much.
75 posted on 01/19/2011 12:16:17 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: Paragon Defender
Not playing your silly game. Look it up.

I don't understand what's so silly about Gal. 1:6-9

And I don't know what's so silly about how you interpret that? It's just a straight up question.

76 posted on 01/19/2011 12:18:45 PM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Paragon Defender

I love this one in particular: http://promormon.blogspot.com/ It is filed with love for everyone (roll eyes). Really PD it is an anti-Christian. Can’t you find sites that promote mormonISM and are not anti-Christian.


77 posted on 01/19/2011 12:20:27 PM PST by svcw (God doesn't show up in our time, but He shows up on time)
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To: Paragon Defender

http://www.whyfaith.com/book-of-abraham-analysis/

FTA:
Final Thoughts
Even if we were to accept the argument that these are, somehow, not the papyri that Smith used to translate the BoA, we are left with a seemingly implausible situation. Namely that among the traditional Egyptian funeral documents such as the Book of Breathings that were buried with mummies were also tucked in the only remaining copies of documents containing the secret writings of Abraham and Joseph. Not only that, but we would also have to believe that the early Mormon church managed to carefully preserve only those portions of the papyri that were NOT part of the Book of Abraham or Joseph; that is, they preserved only part of the pagan burial texts and none used to for the actual translations! That does not seem at all plausible.


78 posted on 01/19/2011 12:26:57 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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Paragon Defender,

Say there's a mormon reading this thread. How do you think it looks to him or her if a person, like you, who is supposedly defending mormonism can't explain Gal 1: 6-9 or how it affects the Book of Mormon. Don't you think by not answering it, by only posting links puts a serious crack in your defense?

You can't call what people are posting here anti-mormon propaganda if you can't defend it personally. From the outside, it looks extremely weak. People tend to go on the side of reason. IF the facts presented by a person seem reasonable, most will people go along with it. When a person can't or won't engage in a debate but only posts links, that persons credibility shrinks and so does the issue they are supporting. If you can't defend your faith with out links, what good is that faith?

79 posted on 01/19/2011 12:30:17 PM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: svcw

The “blogger” really has it in for Shawn Mcraney [sp?] an ex-mormon who has a web based program about mormonism.

Many of his posts are targeted directly at him, aren’t really “pro-mormon” at all.

Seems like it’s just his webpage where he can post his ravings against Shawn.

Intellectually and spiritually empty.


80 posted on 01/19/2011 12:37:24 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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