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To: Paragon Defender
The LDS claim that God chose Joseph Smith to reestablish the Church of Jesus Christ after it had disappeared some 1,700 years earlier following the death of the first apostles. Mormon’s believe that the Church Christ founded somehow needed a restoration. This is why the basic premise of Mormonism cannot be true, unless Christ is a liar. Let’s look at Scripture:

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

Here Christ says his Church will not be destroyed.

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Here Christ says, and Paul reaffirms, that the Church will always teach the TRUTH.

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Mat 28:18-20

Again, here Jesus assures us that He is always with us, to the very end.

So Christ says His Church will not be destroyed or fall away from him, that the Holy Spirit will guide the Church to always teach the Truth, and He will always be with us.

The only reason for a ‘restoration’ is that Christ lied.

10 posted on 01/29/2011 4:37:13 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Nice scriptures! Thanks! We use all of those as well. Seems we might disagree on what it all means though eh? Perhaps that is part of the reason there are so many denominations eh?

Christ didn’t lie at all. You merely misinterpret what was said. It’s ok. It’s not an insult or anything.


11 posted on 01/29/2011 4:44:50 PM PST by Paragon Defender
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To: FatherofFive

With all religions, the 2 main questions that trip up their beliefs are:
1) How do you atone for the sin that separates you from God (Romans 3:23, 6:23, Eph. 2:8,9, etc)

2) Do you believe Jesus Christ to be part of the GODHEAD?

You cannot answer ? 2 with a NO without blowing the whole answer to 1 Philippians 2:5-10

I worked for a Mormon Bishop once many years ago and they would not allow their members to see “THE GODMAKERS” a movie documentary made by 2 x-mormons who were kicked out of the mormon church for trying to debate their disagreements. I think you might still find this movie out there (e-bay perhaps) - it tells more about Mormons than the Mormons want you to know.


12 posted on 01/29/2011 4:46:13 PM PST by princess leah
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