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Posted on 02/03/2011 9:29:57 AM PST by greyfoxx39
The "Law of the Gospel" may be found
The "Law of Chastity" may be found
A fuller explanation of the "endowment" can be found here:
A fuller explanation of the "washing and anointing" can be found here:
What is that hanging on the door handle? It looks like a whip.
That’s what I’ve been reading.
Based on Romney’s age, what do you suppose the temple ceremonies were like when he went through them?
From the temple recommend interviewing instructions:
When interviewing an applicant for a recommend, do not inquire into personal, intimate matters about marital relations between a husband and his wife.
Generally, do not deviate from the recommend interview questions.
If, during an interview, an applicant asks about the propriety of specific conduct, do not pursue the matter. Merely suggest that if the applicant has enough anxiety about the propriety of the conduct to ask about it, the best course would be to discontinue it.
If you are sensitive and wise, you usually can prevent those being interviewed from asking such explicit questions.
From the temple recommend intereview, one of the questions:
13. Has there been any sin or misdeed in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but has not?
Note: NOT resolved with God. NOT confessed to Him through the intercession of Jesus. NOT repented of and forgiven through His grace.
I hope that’s not what heaven looks like. I’m more of a clean-lined contemporary sort of gal. And I like lots of light pouring through windows.
I think hose...can't imagine why, though.
Hose, of course. Thank makes sense, they are bathing after all.
Kinky stuff going on...
Here we have quote from an apostle of the lord, but well be told its only his opinion since its in the JOD and those are supposedly supposed to be ignored, but its valuable insight into what the leaders of the mormon church believe and teach, regardless of whether the mormons want to claim it as doctrine. But wait, dont mormon apostles represent and speak on behalf of the mormon church? Dont they use the JODs as references in their General Conference talks to the faithful?
Now, before anyone argues that the JoD are to be discounted as just the opinions of men, read this
"The Journal of Discourses is a vehicle of doctrine, counsel, and instruction to ALL people, but especially to the Saints. It follows then, then, [sic] that each successive volume is more and more valuable as the Church increases in numbers and importance in the earth." Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, p. iii (1867) " Brigham Young
Hmmm, this just keeps getting more complicated, anyway onward and upward;
LDS Apostle Erastus Snow preached the following on Sunday, Oct. 4, 1857:
" Do the women, when they pray, remember their husbands?... Do you uphold your husband before God as your lord? "What!my husband to be my lord?" I ask, Can you get into the celestial kingdom without him? Have any of you been there? You will remember that you never got into the celestial kingdom [during the temple ceremony] without the aid of your husband. If you did, it was because your husband was away, and some one had to act proxy for him. No woman will get into the celestial kingdom, except her husband receives her, if she is worthy to have a husband; and if not, somebody will receive her as a servant. (Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 291)
Without that "ordinance", nope, no way, it ain't gonna happen.
Uhm, wait, are you sure???
But what of the many mature members of the Church who are not married? Through no failing of their own, they deal with the trials of life alone. Be we all reminded that, in the Lords own way and time, no blessings will be withheld from His faithful Saints. The Lord will judge and reward each individual according to heartfelt desire as well as deed.
So, a "heartfelt desire" can get one in as well? I wonder just how many ways there are besides the "straight and narrow"?
Ahh, I guess I spoke too soon, heres another way;
After both of you die, and your errant spouse gets necrobaptized, your mormon relatives [if you have any] can seal you to him by proxy. Then your errant spouse will have the chance in the period between death and resurrection to accept or reject the ordinances. [Hmm, so if Im in the spirit prison and a spirit missionary comes down and says, hey, we baptized you, endowed you and sealed you to your wife. Do you accept or reject? What do you think Im going to do?]
Either way, if you've been faithful, you will have been sealed and will be able to receive the lowest degree of celestial glory. Huh? So now we have degrees of glory within the celestial kingdom. What are the three degrees of glory in the celestial kingdom? Oh my. My head is starting to hurt from trying to keep all of this straight. I thought the straight and narrow was just that.
But heres something that I find quite conflicting.
All children sealed to parents in the holy temples will inherit the celestial kingdom regardless to their degree of compliance with the principles of the gospel.
As reported by Elder Orson F. Whitney
The Prophet Joseph Smith declared-and he never taught more comforting doctrine-that the eternal sealings of faithful parents and the divine promises made to them for valiant service in the Cause of Truth, would save not only themselves, but likewise their posterity. Though some of the sheep may wander, the eye of the Shepherd is upon them, and sooner or later they will feel the tentacles of Divine Providence reaching out after them and drawing them back to the fold. Either in this life or the life to come, they will return. They will have to pay their debt to justice; they will suffer for their sins; and may tread a thorny path; but if it leads them at last, like the penitent Prodigal, to a loving and forgiving fathers heart and home, the painful experience will not have been in vain. Pray for your careless and disobedient children; hold on to them with your faith. Hope on, trust on, till you see the salvation of God. (Elder Orson F. Whitney, Conference Report, April 1929, Third Day Morning Meeting, p.110).
Really? A child born to endowed, sealed parents, regardless of their degree of compliance with the principles of the gospel is GUARANTEED the celestial kingdom. Just wow! How "convenient" is that?
There is no surety in mormonism as it relates to personal exaltation. Keyword there is "personal". In mormonism, it's about working things for PERSONAL glory, not God's glory. You are working to ensure your personal exaltation, which is supposed to bring glory to God, but I dont see how that works if what youre doing is essentially banking ordinances and works to get the balance sheet in your favor.
If you don't join, but are otherwise a good Christian or person, who did good but did not accept Mormonism, terrestrial kingdom for you.
This is in no way the "heaven" that Christians think of. God and Jesus do not dwell in this "kingdom". Folks in this "kingdom" are separated from God and Jesus. Many members of the mormon church, who were not as dedicated as they could have been, will also go the terrestial.
The rest; sons of perdition, apostates, evil doers, etc., get the telestial "kingdom".
Or, as in my case, since I've renounced mormonism and am considered an apostate of the worst kind, I get to look forward to OUTER DARKNESS! It doesn't matter that I've joined a Christian church, study the Bible, etc. All that matters is I've turned my back on mormonism.
But you know what the Bible says about all of this?
Simply this; Mark 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in HEAVEN.
So all of those requirements the mormons want you to meet in order to attain the celestial kingdom and to be able to dwell with God are superfluous. God has already said you will not be married in heaven. What's so hard to understand about God's Word?
Seriously, did Constantine and the evil neer do wells of the Council of Nicea remove all of that confusing mormon stuff and replace it with something so simple to trick us? Thats what the mormons claim and want us to believe. This is supposed to be some of that "restoration of the fullness of the gospel" mormons claim.
They want you to believe that you "must" be married in the temple in order to gain exaltation [aka; salvation] and the bonus is you get to dwell with God and Jesus. The two are inseparable and for those mormons who don't make it, tough.
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