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Hannity Find His 'Inner Liberal' Amid Exorcist Priest Scandal (Hannity is a Jerk) (Ecumenical)
MyFrontRoyal.com ^ | 02/03/2011 | Dan McDermott

Posted on 02/03/2011 1:34:21 PM PST by Pyro7480

Fox News host Sean Hannity addressed the controversy surrounding a top Virginia exorcist Catholic priest at the end of his Hannity cable news show Wednesday night and made note of the unusually favorable treatment he has been getting from Huffington Post commenters.

After playing portions of a now-infamous 2007 exchange in which then-Human Life International Father Thomas Euteneuer called Hannity a "heretic" and "cultural Catholic," Hannity read part of Fr. Euteneuer's recent confession to transgressions which caused him to be removed as head of Human Life International.

"I take full responsibility for my own poor judgment, my weakness and my sinful conduct that resulted from it," Hannity read.

The host then noted the priest's admission of violating his vow of chastity due to human weakness, which Fr. Euteneuer said "did not involve the sexual act."

"Bill Clinton would be proud of that," Hannity joked.

"Look, I don't want to make a situation worse. Apparently something happened -- pretty severe -- and he's been taken away from his position," Hannity said.

But Hannity still seemed upset at at having his faith questioned and the priest's conduct after the appearance on Hannity & Colmes.

"He's so self righteous. He spent years raising money off this exchange with me and building his name recognition," Hannity said....

One of the panelists joked that the video clip of his face-off with Rev. Euteneuer had "brought out the inner liberal" in Hannity.

Hannity responded, "That's like the Huffington Post defending me [today]."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; cino; eutenueuer; hannity; seanvanity
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Yeah, Hannity, Fr. Euteneuer is JUST like our former cheater-in-chief. Jerk.
1 posted on 02/03/2011 1:34:28 PM PST by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic priest!


2 posted on 02/03/2011 1:35:13 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

I’ve never cared for Hannity.


3 posted on 02/03/2011 1:38:35 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Pyro7480
the priest's admission of violating his vow of chastity due to human weakness, which Fr. Euteneuer said "did not involve the sexual act."

Well then what exactly did it involve?

4 posted on 02/03/2011 1:39:40 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Do we have the right to know? He isn’t in public ministry anymore. There are many steps short of there, but he admitted his wrongdoing. He wasn’t abusing a child/minor.


5 posted on 02/03/2011 1:41:27 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The kind of sex that isn’t really sex, according to B.J. Clinton.


6 posted on 02/03/2011 1:41:41 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Pyro7480

Hannity is the product of the “Confraternity of Christian Doctrine” program which muddles the formation of conscience. Notice how Hannity last night argued this sin is not as bad as that sin so I would rather people commit this lesser but serious sin and conveniently left out what he as a Christian is called to do which is to avoid sin and to help others do so as well.

Had Hannity bothered to study the old Baltimore Catechism or the newer Catechism of the Catholic Church, he would know what he said last night on his show is a serious sin in that it is scandalous and induces others to sin and any priest worth his salt would call him aside to discuss the matter and suggest he not present himself to receive the Holy Eucharist.

Perhaps we need to start calling him Mario Hannity and the former governor of New York Sean Cuomo.


7 posted on 02/03/2011 1:42:49 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: allmendream

Um, you just did what I just criticized Hannity for.


8 posted on 02/03/2011 1:43:16 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
...He's so self righteous. He spent years raising money off this exchange with me and building his name recognition...

He raised money for HLI! Jeesh Hannity, self righteousness is not something for you to be lecturing anyone about.

9 posted on 02/03/2011 1:44:22 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: Pyro7480

So? When someone makes an asinine statement like that it deserves a clarifying followup or a joking denunciation of his LAME equivocation.

So man up and criticize me if you are not man enough to criticize this equivocating charlatan.


10 posted on 02/03/2011 1:46:54 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Pyro7480
Catholic priest! Imperfect human being, obviously mistaken he was a good fit for the priesthood.
11 posted on 02/03/2011 1:48:58 PM PST by jla
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To: allmendream

Why don’t you read his whole statement before calling him a “charlatan”? And follow the forum rules and not make it personal!


12 posted on 02/03/2011 1:50:58 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

I never said we had the right to know. I was just wondering aloud how one can break one’s vow of chastity without the sexual act being involved.


13 posted on 02/03/2011 1:51:23 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: jla

ALL Catholic priests are sinners. Ordination doesn’t change that.


14 posted on 02/03/2011 1:51:39 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Mr. Mojo
How's this for starters?

You have heard that it was said to them of old: Thou shalt not commit adultery. But I say to you, that whosoever shall look on a woman to lust after her, hath already committed adultery with her in his heart.

15 posted on 02/03/2011 1:54:09 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

Sure, sure. That was what it was about. He violated his vow of chasity “in his heart”.

LOL!

Apparently it depends upon what your definition of “is” is.


16 posted on 02/03/2011 1:55:40 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Never on my watch

Hannity has shot himself in the foot. Cheap shot par excellance, from one self rightous narsicist loud mouth against a fallen priest who on at least one occasion was right, when he stated that he would refuse Sean communion. For the life of me I can’t remember what it was, but Father was spot on. Boy was Sean in a huff and has now jumped at the chance to feather his grudge to throw stones at the wounded. At least Father didn’t leave the Church, but instead confessed with contrition and took his consequences.


17 posted on 02/03/2011 1:56:27 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: allmendream
Sure, sure. That was what it was about. He violated his vow of chasity “in his heart”.

If that got you bounced from ministry, well, we'd have to shut down all churches.

18 posted on 02/03/2011 1:57:04 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Touch my tagline and I'll have you arrested)
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To: Pyro7480

Hannity doesn’t realize that we all sin but those who love Christ confess and strive to move forward aligning our souls more with Him. Hannity thinks we just choose a sinful life and still call ourselves Christians.


19 posted on 02/03/2011 1:57:13 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: allmendream

That’s why I said “starters.” Reading comprehension...look it up.


20 posted on 02/03/2011 1:57:35 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

I am extremely sorry to hear this. I was wondering why HLI has had an acting head for the past month or two, in letters I have received from them. Whatever he did, I think he did an excellent job when he took over from Fr. Marx as head of HLI.

I think he was a good man who stumbled. Making fun of him is just plain stupid.


21 posted on 02/03/2011 1:57:55 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Pyro7480

I have a hard time believing he was relieved of his position at Human Life International merely for lusting after someone in his heart.


22 posted on 02/03/2011 1:58:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: RitaOK
At least Father didn’t leave the Church, but instead confessed with contrition and took his consequences.

Anyone comparing Father to the cheater-in-chief fails to understand that.

23 posted on 02/03/2011 1:59:05 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Read what I wrote again. That’s why I said “starters.”


24 posted on 02/03/2011 2:00:00 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

“Lame equivocation”. Look it up.


25 posted on 02/03/2011 2:00:13 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Yes. Comparing a contrite man to the cheater-in-chief is pretty lame.


26 posted on 02/03/2011 2:01:36 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480
That’s why I said “starters.”

Ok then, please give me another example (besides lusting after someone in one's heart) of breaking one's vow of chastity that doesn't involve the sex act. ...something that would be likely to get him fired from his position.

27 posted on 02/03/2011 2:03:49 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Pyro7480
Clinton cried contritely while carrying his Bible where the camera could see it.

Do you know what is in his heart to know that he was not contrite?

If this man were truly contrite he would not be engaged in ‘Clintonian’ equivocation about the extent of his violation of his vows, and what types of sex are not ‘really’ sex.

“I was wrong, but really it wasn't THAT bad.” is not contrition, it is lame equivocation.

28 posted on 02/03/2011 2:04:20 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

A vow of chastity isn’t merely about abstaining sex. It could be kissing. It could be an advance. It’s as much about the “spirit” of the law as it is about the letter.


29 posted on 02/03/2011 2:05:42 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

Why did you excerpt this? Why not post it in its entirety?


31 posted on 02/03/2011 2:10:24 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
But he didn't say it wasn't THAT bad. That is a false impression.

From his statement:

I must acknowledge, however, that one particularly complex situation clouded my judgment and led me to imprudent decisions with harmful consequences, the worst of which was violating the boundaries of chastity with an adult female who was under my spiritual care.

I take full responsibility for my own poor judgment, my weakness and my sinful conduct that resulted from it. I offer no excuse for my professional or moral failures, nor do I shift the blame to anyone else. I state without reserve that I am deeply sorry for my actions. I have personally apologized, where possible, to anyone I have harmed. I am saddened beyond words for my fall, not only because of the harm done to my priesthood and my family, but also because of the harm done to all others who are affected, to the faith of those who placed so much trust in me and our Church, and to the pro-life movement so populated with heroic, faithful people. I must face and make amends for the disappointment I have caused.

...I therefore affirm and will never deviate from my affirmation that the following are true:

* My violations of chastity were limited to one person only, an adult woman;
* The violations of chastity happened due to human weakness but did not involve the sexual act;
*The accusation that I “targeted” vulnerable women or otherwise sought them out for spiritual direction is utterly false and a serious defamation of my character and ministry;

32 posted on 02/03/2011 2:11:01 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

A couple of different flavored Catholics name calling one another. Whoop De Doo.


33 posted on 02/03/2011 2:11:03 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Pyro7480
I have a real time stomaching more than 5-10 minutes of Hannity.
34 posted on 02/03/2011 2:11:42 PM PST by bwc2221 (.)
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To: allmendream

Nice twisting of what I wrote there...


35 posted on 02/03/2011 2:12:57 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Mr. Mojo

A sin against chastity or chaste behaviour can include a kiss, a touch motivated by lust on one’s self or another, but short of the marital act. Father Eutenhaur denies the sex act but was probably more specific in the confessional as to the exact extent of his guilt. We will never know.

This was reportedly not an isolated incident, so yes, he had fallen into a habitual condition of sin, but obviously is trying to face off against it spiritually, or he could and would have walked away, letting the splendid other good works he has done stand alone.


36 posted on 02/03/2011 2:14:56 PM PST by RitaOK
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“She verified her posts, claiming both a two-plus-year direct relationship with Father Euteneuer based on an ongoing exorcism case involving a family member, as well as what both she and her husband claim was a Dec. 23rd phone conversation with an HLI board member who told them that Euteneuer’s Aug. 27 recall from HLI came as a result of letters sent by two women to the priest’s presiding bishop claiming sexual indiscretions by Euteneuer against them.”

Sexual indiscretions that ALSO didn't involve “the” sexual act?

And yes “The violations of chastity happened due to human weakness but did not involve the sexual act” is not the words of a contrite man, but one saying ‘What I did was wrong, but it wasn't THAT bad’ (i.e. as bad as “the” sexual act would have been presumably).

37 posted on 02/03/2011 2:17:10 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Pyro7480

I appreciate that Sean tries to maintain principles and decorum on his show, since so many shows are not worth watching. IMHO, he comes across as a mature, responsible and respectful personality.

I’m not sure of his stance on every issue, but obviously on the subject of birth control he’s misguided. While I don’t want to defend his position, most of the country is misguided on that - including many conservatives - as it’s a tough lesson to learn. A way for people to start seeing the truth is to remember that while fornication is a sin that is very difficult for people to avoid, birth control does not actually do much to solve the problem of out-of-wedlock pregnancy, as many casual relations are between people who don’t use birth control anyway, and it’s ubiquity does contribute to people being comfortable with fornication.

With patience and clarity the truth can be spoken on this subject and people can understand it.


38 posted on 02/03/2011 2:19:49 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: RitaOK

* My violations of chastity were limited to one person only, an adult woman;


39 posted on 02/03/2011 2:21:30 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Mr. Mojo

What Pyro said. Sins against chastity can be of thought, word, or deed. Or any combination.


40 posted on 02/03/2011 2:27:11 PM PST by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: allmendream

Sexual indiscretions that ALSO didn’t involve “the” sexual act?” ___________________________________________________

I think you may be trying to graduate the sin to the sex act, to make this add up, when in reality for a Catholic priest he is held to a higher standard, and held far more accountable for much less. His accusers probably know this.

I am not saying that it is not possible that he is lying, but he is held to just as much accountability for having done far less, so to him it is going to be just as penalizing.


41 posted on 02/03/2011 2:29:06 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: allmendream

Maybe the problem is that your understanding of chastity is too limited and technical.


42 posted on 02/03/2011 2:30:03 PM PST by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Mr. Mojo

“She used to go the church
club every week.
They’d meet each other there
Hold hands
And think Pure Thoughts” Frank Zappa


43 posted on 02/03/2011 2:30:14 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Using hearsay? LOL! The article that you excerpted from was written before his statement, his bishop’s statement, and HLI’s statement came out.


44 posted on 02/03/2011 2:30:41 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Notwithstanding

* My violations of chastity were limited to one person only, an adult woman;
___________________________________________________________

Well good for you. ;) And we all strive for motivation by desire, rather than of lust.


45 posted on 02/03/2011 2:32:19 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: Romulus
Maybe the problem is that equivocation doesn't indicate contrition.

To me the use of the phrase “the sexual act” is tied up in the word “the”. As if there is only “the” sexual act. It was, from the formulation used, most likely “a” sexual act, just not “the” sexual act. Quite Clintonian in the parsing of his words.

Apparently this was an ongoing thing, and reportedly with three different women, and in connection with his performance of exorcisms.

I don't see where you arrive at “contrition” when your journey begins and ends with “equivocation”.

46 posted on 02/03/2011 2:35:51 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Pyro7480

By his actions he has proven Fr. Tom to be correct. Sean Hannity is a “cultural catholic/cino”. Sean is gloating over someone else’s failings, he is a real arrogant jerk.


47 posted on 02/03/2011 2:35:51 PM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God!)
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To: Pyro7480
If Hannity would stop saying “You know” every other sentence, he could reduce his radio show to 30 minutes.
48 posted on 02/03/2011 2:38:11 PM PST by llevrok (Politically correct use to be not telling some one who you voted for.)
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To: Pyro7480
Nothing changes the truth of the charges leveled against Hannity by Fr. Euteneuer.

Hannity's cheap tut-tutting at the fall of Euteneuer is remarkably childish, uncharitable and ungracious--most especially because the father's attempt to inform Hannity of the error of his views was a spiritual act of mercy. Using Euteneuer's sin to implicitly strengthen his perverse "Catholicism" only compounds the gravity of Hannity's scandalous behavior.

I pray that Sean and all similarly misguided Catholics are given the grace of humility, avail themselves of the Sacrament of Reconciliation and return to a loving obedience to the authority of the Church they claim to believe in.

49 posted on 02/03/2011 2:42:06 PM PST by AHerald ("Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home -- John 19:27)
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