Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: ApplegateRanch

Ummm...the purpose of all of that is to glorify and worship our Lord and our God.


14 posted on 02/04/2011 12:25:36 AM PST by The Unknown Republican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies ]


To: The Unknown Republican; ApplegateRanch; RJR_fan
ARWhat is the point of girding on all that Gospel Armor, hauling around a Shield, and belting on the Sword, if we’re just going to bug out so we can sit down in front of a heavenly omnivision set to watch the fight, instead of STANDING AGAINST the fiery darts of Satan?
TURUmmm...the purpose of all of that is to glorify and worship our Lord and our God.

I hope you misspoke because I find it hard to believe that the only place we can "glorify and worship" our LORD is in heaven before the Omnivision. In fact, I am struggling with how we can somehow glorify God better in Heaven than so here on Earth. To suggest that we can Glorify Him better there tells me that the claimant doesn't understand the definition of Glorify.

God receives Glory in the manifestation of His works. He gets more glory bringing a wretched sinner to saving faith and leading her to good works than He would serving us snacks while we sit in glorified bodies around the Omnivision. God receives Glory in His Judgment, in His Wrath, in His Patience, and all of those other things we would not bring before Him in our glorified state. It is easier to argue that the Pre-Trib rapture robs God of the opportunity to demonstrate why He is Holy and worthy of Praise.

Lets look at some passages that Futurists like to remind us of - and that is that Israel is supposed to be surrounded by her enemies, and then when it looks like Israel is about to get crushed, God steps in and destroys all those opposed to Israel. Why does God do that? It tells us right there in the passages - "So that the world will know that I am God". IOW, God receives Glory when He topples the enemies of His Elect. Now lets look at the Dispensationalist revisionism - allegedly our LORD loves His Bride the Church, but when the going gets inconvenient and scary He removes many of them and leaves the 2nd Chancers out in the cold to get crushed by Satan. What is wrong with this picture? God doesn't get glory in the way He likes to when defending His Chosen people, and the other part of his late-coming 2nd Service Church (post-Rapture) gets kicked to the curb while God does nothing about it, foregoing another opportunity to take care of His own.

Its also narcissistic to rely on a pre-trib "rapture". The Futurists defend this teaching based on God protecting Noah and Lot. Two major problems with this: (1) Noah and Lot were not swept up into heaven to rest it out while the Beatdown took place. (2) the teaching that God is obligated to pull our butts out of messes that we largely helped to make because of lethargy and being AWOL from the spiritual battle - the concept is profoundly insulting to the martyrs who died violent deaths because they struggled and worked hard to change their world and stood up to the evil-doers in the name of Christ. (despite reading from the same Bible with the same Revelation and prophecies in it that we have today)

If there is any generation less deserving of a pre-trib rapture it is the one that sits on its collective ass letting the world burn without the knowledge of Christ our Savior. It robs God of His glory and rewards indifference and selfishness.

124 posted on 02/04/2011 7:50:42 PM PST by The Theophilus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies ]

To: The Unknown Republican
I have a question: I have always been taught that when we die we either go to heaven or hell at the time of our deaths. This summer we were at a visiting church and the pastor preached on the second coming. This is where most Christains believe that all believers will rise up from the dead and meet Jesus in the sky. If we have already departed this earth and been with the Lord why would we rise from the dead and meet Jesus? Some believe that when Christ returns he will stay for a thousand years.
197 posted on 02/06/2011 8:35:35 PM PST by Faith-Hope
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson