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Posted on 02/08/2011 7:12:21 AM PST by Gamecock
I pray several times EVERY day for this. EVERY DAY!!!
First a pope kissing the Koran.
Then a pope praying Hindu verse.
What next?
I shudder to imagine.
And yet the Catholic church denounces and condemns Protestants.
Unreal.....
And you my friend are as lost as a bear in the mall. There is ONLY one God. He is in three persons. He is the God in Heaven. He does not tell us to worship cows, little fat stone men, a pedophile in a cave in Arabia. He tells us to worship Him. I will pray for you and those like you that "think" there are great religions around the world. There are thousands of "religions". There are over 1,000 religions in the USA alone. But, there is only ONE Him. One Faith. That is through Jesus Christ.
I browsed through the 14 Stations, and found the reference. Here's the full context, from the 14th Station:
Tragedies make us ponder. A tsunami tells us that life is serious. Hiroshima and Nagasaki remain pilgrim places. When death strikes near, another world draws close. We then shed our illusions and have a grasp of the deeper reality. People in ancient India prayed: “Lead me from the unreal to the real, from darkness to light, from death to immortality.”[1]
After Jesus left this world, Christians began to look back and interpret his life and mission. They carried his message to the ends of the earth. And this message itself is Jesus Christ, who is “the power of God and the wisdom of God”.[2] It says that the reality is Christ [3] and that our ultimate destiny is to be with him. [4]
[1] Brihadaranyaka Upanishads 1.III.28.
[2] 1 Cor 1:24.
[3] Cf. Col 2:17.
[4] Cf. Phil 1:23.
Ah, so he didn't pray the pagan verse. It was a quotation. The meditations by the Indian bishop also included a quote from Shakespeare, but the overwhelming quotations/citations were from Scripture.
Since I hear only the Tridentine Mass as approved and guaranteed by Pope Pius X, I am spared ridiculously evil situations like this one.
What explanations will be forthcoming to God from the originators and those subsequent popes to Vatican II? They won’t mean a thing.
Then the church needs to reevaluate it's pope selection process and find men of more wisdom and discernment.
There are better ways to connect with those of different religions to hear the gospel and to encourage them to receive Christ.
See post #24.
There's nothing particularly pagan about that verse. No pagan deity is mentioned.
This article is referring to the Pope's own meditations on the way of the Cross on Good Friday, not to the liturgy. I would encourage you, yes you, Gamecock, to find a reverent Catholic parish and attend the Good Friday Liturgy. (It's not a Mass.)
You will find that it is profoundly Christ-centered and steeped in Scripture. The Gospel of John, chapters 18 and 19, is read in its entirety, along with other passages of Scripture, none of which have anything to do with Hinduism.
Thanks for the research. A typical distortion by those who hate the Church.
See post #24.
This is the religion forum, Pyro. Facts and evidence are not allowed. /s
Thanks for doing the research that should have been done in the first place.
I’m not sure... where the infallibility begins and ends is still a bit of a mystery to me. I think the Pope aught to have a special hat he can put on when he is feeling infallible, to clear up any confusion.
Not like it’s going to matter much- there will be a new spin. Count on it.
See post #24.
And for everyone -- this quote:
Our actions have a tongue of their own; they have an eloquence of their own, even when the tongue is silent. For deeds prove the lover more than words. -- St. Cyril of Jerusalem
Our Lord had this sobering teaching to the Church:
Matthew 7:13-23
13 ‘Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the road is easy* that leads to destruction, and there are many who take it. 14For the gate is narrow and the road is hard that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
A Tree and Its Fruit
15 ‘Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? 17In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus you will know them by their fruits.
Concerning Self-Deception
21 ‘Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord”, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?” 23Then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.”
The Pope is not infallible in every single act and writing. In fact, it’s a very narrow thing that has been only solemnly used twice- 1854 and 1950- the proclamations of the doctrines of the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption.
But then I remember Paul who used the pagan statue of the unknown God to teach pagans about the One God.
The verse itself does not say anything incompatible with Christianity, at least when it's quoted out of context.
Do you have any scriptural basis for that statement? I don't think God is schizo; I don't think he talks to himself, nor prays to himself. Perhaps I'm missing a verse. So, before you make accusations of 'lost as a bear in the mall' - please let me know where you came across the 'Trinity' concept. It's not in the Old, nor the New Testament - it's a man-made construct. So, please provide a source.
Please feel free to use ANY of the 91 Versions of the Bible in print. Please enlighten me as to where a prophet, Jesus or any of his disciples (including Judas or Jesus's mother) have stated the Trinity as you have described.
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