TEN REASONS WHY ISAIAH 53 CANNOT REFER TO ISRAEL

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[hope_dies_last]

With the utmost respect for the beliefs held by one of the third largest religions in the world, that is Judaism, I am convinced that G-d is larger that the great religious divide, and trust the manifold wisdom of G-d in calling His sheep into one fold, that is the House of Israel and under the Lordship of Yeshua, in the lineage and Kingship of the House of David and according to the Priestlyhood in the Order of Melchizedic, Shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua haMashiach.

[Jack Hydrazine]

I bet it was really talking about Lichtenstein!

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

Uh,what? Where are you getting this info?

[RaceBannon]

Well, I am not clear on what the point is of his comments, because Christians say that Isaiah 53 is NOT about Israel, per se, but about Jesus Christ and the coming Messiah, and that these verses describe the Messiah and His suffering and death on the cross.

It also speaks volumes of how wrong so many paintings of “Jesus” are, most show him fairly handsome, while verse

Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.

Speaks how he has no form or comliness, I.E., attractiveness, that he would be desireable

In other words, jesus was most likely rather plain looking, maybe even homely, to prove a point how we humans tend to promote or appoint as leaders those whoo look more handsome or muscular or fit

[James C. Bennett]

Of interest, perhaps?

[pnh102]

In other words, jesus was most likely rather plain looking, maybe even homely, to prove a point how we humans tend to promote or appoint as leaders those whoo look more handsome or muscular or fit

Jesus would have to be physically very strong. He was a carpenter by trade, and with no power tools, He would need to have been able to do all of the things we associate with carpentry by hand.

Also, when Jesus cleansed the Temple, He would have had to have been strong, and quite possibly intimidating-looking, to successfully get away with flipping over tables and whipping the merchants and money changers therein.

[CynicalBear]

I’ve never heard anyone say that Isaiah 53 referred to Israel. Hmmm.

[r9etb]

With the utmost respect for the beliefs held by one of the third largest religions in the world, that is Judaism

3rd largest ... except for that dozen or so other religions that outnumber it....

[hope_dies_last]

I’ve never heard anyone say that Isaiah 53 referred to Israel. Hmmm.

Judaism teaches this passage refers to the Jews or the Nation of Israel, while Christianity teaches this passage refers to Christ.

[hope_dies_last]

Uh,what? Where are you getting this info?

Same answer I gave to cynicalbear...

Judaism teaches this passage refers to the Jews or the Nation of Israel, while Christianity teaches this passage refers to Christ.

[I still care]

bookmarked.

[allmendream]

Hamlet 2 plays a musical number called “Rock me Rock me Rock me Sexy Jesus” that is a hilarious spoof on the “Chris Christopherson” image of our Savior as one fine dude!

[Siena Dreaming]

I’ve never heard anyone say that Isaiah 53 referred to Israel.

Jews say it all the time.

These are excellent rebuttals. Thanks, hope.

[CynicalBear]

I didn’t realize that. Thanks.

[RobRoy]

>>Uh,what? Where are you getting this info?<<

I’m thinking the bible.

The rest is analysis of what the bible says.

However, I did not know of the timing of the “crazy talk” teaching that it was speaking of Israel.

[blasater1960]

Very much so!, thanks for the ping.

[allmendream]

Yes, so much for any claim to rigorous scholarship with THAT enormity!

Judaism isn’t even in the top 10!

[Uri’el-2012]

Amen ! Brother.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[RaceBannon]

With the Holy Spirit behind you, how do you know the Money Changers didn’t just see a righteous angry man with a whip??

[POWERSBOOTHEFAN]

These passages DO NOT refer to Jesus.The Christian Bible is a gross twisting around of the Torah!